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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy

Alberta is THE red province of Canada, feeding Ontario and Quebec through a monetary spigot. They've been forced to pay for the socialist programs that keep eastern Canada fat, happy, and voting for the Liberal Party.

This seperatist movement that is suddenly on the radar didn't start yesterday. Western Canadians have been talking about a different course for years.

I think Alberta will be a member of the United States, likely with Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia following, in the next 10-15 years, if Canada keeps spiralling into socialist oblivion...


15 posted on 07/09/2005 12:46:44 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Ketchup Boy is the George Costanza of the US Senate)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I think Alberta will be a member of the United States, likely with Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia following, in the next 10-15 years, if Canada keeps spiralling into socialist oblivion...
Historically the US political parties have not agreed to admit one state at a time, but could only act if there were two new states, each with equal and opposite "red or blue" tendencies. The last two states admitted - Alaska (R) and Hawai (D) - have maintained their partisan identities for the succeeding half-century.

It's a nice fantasy to think that Canda would give us a red state - but the demand for a blue state to balance it would not be negotiable. If indeed the Democrats allowed serious consideration of the idea! "Objective" journalism here would have a fit at the idea of a province escaping from Socialist Heaven up there. They would dismiss the idea that there could be justification for such action out of hand. And, if anything, promote a "blue secession" movement in the US.


32 posted on 07/09/2005 1:18:10 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

I don't want to rain on your parade but your contention that Alberta feeds money to Ontario is patently false. Ontario is by far the richest province in Canada, and for many years fed money to Alberta. It has never been the other way around.

Furthermore the Alberta oil business is owned more by Ontario share holders than citizens of Alberta.

Unfortunately, if you examine the poll numbers more Albertans voted for the NDP and Liberals combined in the last election than voted for the Conservative party, of course due to our "first past the post" system the seats all went to conservatives. Thus any attempt to conduct a referendum on independance would likely fail. And due to massive movement of people from other provinces to Alberta in the search of jobs the prospects of a successful referendum are likely to get worse in the futur.

These are the aspects of Albertan independance which must be adressed. A dispassionate examination of reality is called for if you ever want to achieve your goals.


43 posted on 07/09/2005 1:41:28 PM PDT by thefinancechemist
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I think Alberta will be a member of the United States, likely with Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia following, in the next 10-15 years, if Canada keeps spiralling into socialist oblivion...

Will this happen during, or after, Hillary's presidency?

53 posted on 07/09/2005 2:29:41 PM PDT by AZLiberty (French: The language of diplomacy, except for the French)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I think Alberta will be a member of the United States, likely with Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia following, in the next 10-15 years, if Canada keeps spiralling into socialist oblivion...

It wouldn't be easy, as someone has said when push comes to shove most people just stick with the status quo. I for one would welcome them all to the USA, or wish them the best as an independent nation.

76 posted on 07/09/2005 9:29:29 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

“Alberta is THE red province of Canada”

Blue.


130 posted on 10/22/2008 9:26:56 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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