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Police: London Blasts Were Seconds Apart
My Way News via Drudgereport ^ | Jul 9, 10:00 AM (ET) | MATT MOORE

Posted on 07/09/2005 9:39:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative


Two forensics officers take a break in front of the bomb wrecked double decker bus at London's Tavistock Square, Saturday, July 9, 2005, two day ago in a series of explosions in London, on the underground trains and a double decker bus. (AP Photo/Sang Tan)

LONDON (AP) - Three bombs containing sophisticated explosives hit the London Underground within less than a minute of each other, police said Saturday as a clearer picture emerged of the coordinated attacks last week that killed at least 49 people.

The bombs on the subway went off within a span of 50 seconds Thursday, suggesting detonation by synchronized timers rather than suicide bombers, police said, revising earlier accounts that the blasts occurred within a 26-minute span. An explosion tore through a double-decker bus nearly an hour later.

The explosions were so destructive that authorities haven't been able to identify a single body and were depending on fingerprints, dental records and DNA analysis, detectives said Saturday.

More bodies remain trapped underground, police said. Recovery crews were hampered by heat, dust and other "difficult conditions," Deputy Commissioner Andy Trotter of British Transport Police said.


People view the floral tributes left outside Kings Cross Station in London, Saturday July 9, 2005, as they pay their respects following Thursdays bombings. King's Cross station is near the site of the deadliest of the three subway bombings, where at least 21 people were killed. Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair said Saturday that links to al-Qaida were likely, but it was not yet clear who was behind the devastating blasts that shook London and killed at least 49 people. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

Sir Ian Blair, commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, said he expected the toll to rise but doubted it would reach triple digits. Many of the Underground tunnels are more than 100 feet beneath the surface.

Sophisticated coordination is a hallmark of al-Qaida, the terror network blamed for the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States and said by British officials to have possibly been behind the London blasts.

"A slightly different picture is emerging around the timing of these bomb incidents," Deputy Assistant Commission Brian Paddick said at a Metropolitan Police briefing on Thursday's bombings. "All three bombs on the London Underground system actually exploded within seconds of each other, at 8:50 in the morning."

The first bomb exploded at the Aldgate station in east London. Two more went off within seconds, they said.

Police said the bombs were composed of "high explosive" - probably not homemade material. Investigators said Friday that the bombs were lighter than 10 pounds each and could be carried in a backpack.


A police officer places flowers on a makeshift memorial at Kings Cross Station in London, Saturday July 9, 2005, following Thursdays bombings. King's Cross station is near the site of the deadliest of the three subway bombings, where at least 21 people were killed. Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair said Saturday that links to al-Qaida were likely, but it was not yet clear who was behind the devastating blasts that shook London and killed at least 49 people. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

A fourth destroyed a bus near a subway entrance, killing 13 people, police said. The attacks came as President Bush and other G-8 leaders were holding a summit in Scotland and a day after London was named the host city for the 2012 Olympics.

Forty-nine bodies have been recovered from the bombings but were so mangled that detectives have not been able to identify a single body.

"It is a very harrowing task," police Detective Superintendent Jim Dickie said. "Most of the victims have suffered intensive trauma, and by that I mean there are body parts as well as torsos."

More than 700 people from several countries, including the United States, were wounded.

In a British Broadcasting Corp. radio interview Saturday, Prime Minister Tony Blair said investigators did not yet know who was behind the attacks but hoped to have more information soon.


Police officers stand by the floral tributes left outside Kings Cross Station in London, Saturday July 9, 2005, as people pay their respects following Thursdays bombings. King's Cross station is near the site of the deadliest of the three subway bombings, where at least 21 people were killed. Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair said Saturday that links to al-Qaida were likely, but it was not yet clear who was behind the devastating blasts that shook London and killed at least 49 people. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

He said he was aware of a claim of responsibility posted on the Internet by a group calling itself The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe. He said it was "reasonably obvious that it comes from that type of quarter" but not yet clear exactly which organization was responsible.

Little was known about the group, but a Web statement in the same name claimed responsibility for the last major terror attack in Europe: the bombs on commuter trains in Madrid in March 2004 that killed 191 people.

A second claim appeared on a Web site Saturday, this one signed Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades. The group, whose name evokes the alias of Mohammed Atef, Osama bin Laden's top deputy who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in November 2001. But experts say the group has no proven track record of attacks, and note it has claimed responsibility for events in which it was unlikely to have played any role, such as the 2003 blackouts in the United States and London that resulted from technical problems.

Subway passengers around the capital remained wary on Saturday, a day after most of its lines reopened. Rider volume remained steady but light.

"Everyone's looking around a little bit more," said William Palmer, 23, a student.

At King's Cross station, near the site of the deadliest of the three subway bombings, Underground service was partially restored. Flowers and sympathy cards piled up outside honoring the dead - at least 21 were killed on the train bombed between King's Cross and Russell Square stations.

"Madrid is with London," read one card. Another said: "Everyone has gone to the best place, which is heaven."

In the interview, the prime minister also said it was crucial to address terrorism's underlying causes, which he identified as deprivation, lack of democracy and ongoing conflict in the Middle East and praised the calm way Londoners reacted to the bombings.

His countrymen, he said, "are simply not going to be terrorized by terror in this way."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: london; londonattacked; terrorism
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To: Paleo Conservative
Recovery crews were hampered by heat, dust and other "difficult conditions,"

Apparently one of the "difficult conditions" is the presence of huge numbers of rats.

21 posted on 07/09/2005 11:04:55 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Delta 21; Paleo Conservative
 
Intriguing scenario - but I don't know about it being operationally efficient. All it would take during that hour was someone to get curious and discover one of those bombs riding around, and excrement would hit the security fan. Lock downs and evacuations. Plus, would the lone bomber have to lug ALL of them around at once, or return to a cache every time, raising the chances of suspicion and having the effort of the whole operation wasted? The straight line from point A to point B would be to have multiple bombers fan out from different locations on mass public transportation so as to stay "lost in a crowd", get on-station, then do their thing whether it was setting timers or personally going out in a blaze to receive their "paradise". I think that way, it would improve chances for success by keeping the bombs under their supervision until time for use, and if one bomber were to be stopped, there could still be some others left to continue on. 
 
 

22 posted on 07/09/2005 11:16:26 AM PDT by lapsus calami
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To: Grampa Dave
For those that want more facts, just posted this from the BBC which now is going to allow the word Terrorists into their utterings:

BBC: London bombings: Police updates

23 posted on 07/09/2005 11:40:07 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave
For those that want more facts, just posted this from the BBC which now is going to allow the word Terrorists into their utterings:

Is the BBC implying they aren't "freedom fighters"? How judgemental of them.

24 posted on 07/09/2005 11:43:44 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: F-117A

Strange that one bomb should go off about an hour after the rest. Was one bomber late or chickened out until he heard of the others going off? Was that planned or unplanned?


27 posted on 07/09/2005 11:58:38 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Lizarde

'Could you or somebody else please explain to the demolition challenged the difference between homemade explosives and the more professional kind alluded to here. Thanks.'

On the most basic level, the speed at which the material detonates, measured in feet per second (fps).


28 posted on 07/09/2005 11:58:40 AM PDT by xone
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To: Paleo Conservative
The explosions were so destructive that authorities haven't been able to identify a single body

I find that hard to believe. Very hard.

30 posted on 07/09/2005 12:01:13 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Lizarde

High explosives are not made from fertilizer,but some of the basic compounds that can be used as fertilizer are in them.

Some HE:
TNT
Comp B
PETN
RDX
TorPex
C-4
SEMTEX
etc. (not explosive)
The list is long because there are specific uses for certain HE products that maximize their effects. In quantity, all will spray frags attached or cause blast effects.


31 posted on 07/09/2005 12:05:28 PM PDT by xone
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To: Lizarde
 
I guess what you're looking for is that there is a composition, quality and calorie difference between commercially manufactured industrial/military grade explosives and the kind mixed up from ingredients and components procured at hardware/grocery stores. Then it comes down to the level of sophistication of how it's detonated.
 
 Check here for some more detailed info
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/E/Ex/Explosive_material.htm
 
 

32 posted on 07/09/2005 12:05:54 PM PDT by lapsus calami
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; MamaDearest; WestCoastGal; ...

If it goes wrong, then no one will claim it, but if it kills enough people, then all the groups want the glory, it helps with recruiting new bombers.


33 posted on 07/09/2005 2:48:59 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp Meet YOUR Communist party members in Congress)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe some of what has saved Los Angeles is the inability to get around on time anywhere.

I think our most vulnerable point are the ports where ships can float in a nuke with a timer and we wouldn't have a clue.
The second major target in my opinion would be to use shoulder rockets while baseball games are in progress.

The softest target to hit would be any of the multiplex theaters where they could leave a bomb under the seat at a theater and set it off when they are outside.


34 posted on 07/09/2005 7:42:38 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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