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1 posted on 07/08/2005 1:35:56 PM PDT by Pokey78
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Murdoch paper is kicking-in.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 1:39:51 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody (S.C.O.T.U.S. -- Supreme Court Out of Touch with United States)
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As Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah, neatly put it, "We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you."


3 posted on 07/08/2005 1:42:13 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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This is great. This demonstrates to the Londoners how the Muslims really are beyond the crocodile tears. Blame everyone else!
4 posted on 07/08/2005 1:42:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (Muslim Motto; Condemn Today, Celebrate Tomorrow)
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"In dealing with terrorism you are confronting a resentment that is not concerned to improve the lot of anyone, but only to destroy the thing it hates. That is what appeals in terrorism, since hatred is a much easier and less demanding emotion to live by than love, . . ."

Am I the only one that believes this sentence describes the dummycrats and their hate for President Bush?


5 posted on 07/08/2005 1:44:15 PM PDT by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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if that is so, it is time for Muslims to organise against those who preach resentment in the name of their religion, and who regard the crimes of last Thursday as virtuous deeds, performed with God's blessing, in a holy cause.

Ain't gonna happen...

I believe it's akin to asking Germany or Japan to surrender in WWII. We had to firebomb one and use the Atomic bomb on the other. IMHO, they will not surrender until they are thoroughly beaten and humiliated.

6 posted on 07/08/2005 1:44:45 PM PDT by frogjerk
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Well written article. Nietzsche is a great thinker, despite his many eccentricities, and later insanity. He has many very poignant insights into human nature, and this was a particularly interesting one. But your point about how many of these terrorists, especially Al Qu'eda, are the middle class pioneers who should have been who instead chose a faster path glory is a critically important point to be understood. By their actions, AND by their inactions, these men who blame the problems of the Arab world on the West are themselves causes for the problems of the Arab world. Not all Muslims and Muslim countries are doing badly these days, and hundreds of millions do not support terrorism. In fact, many Muslim countries are slowlw climbing out of their economic death spiral. But very few of the Arab Muslim countries are. Why is that? Perhaps it's because they are looking for an easy, faster way out. And the individuals who should be leading them to success are leading them instead to destruction.

That is why the development of a moderate, Muslim middle class is critical. Because then, they could offer an alternative, with tangible benefits. "Ok, young Achmed, you COULD go join up with Al-Zarqawi and become a martyr, and kill infidel Christians or Jews or your own people: you see those chunky kibbles on al-Jazeera? That's what you'll look like. And that will bring retribution down on EVERYONE's heads and we all lose, and you will be responsible for your community becoming a charred pile of ash. Or...You could go to medical school, help your fellow Muslims (as the Koran says), heal them, make a wad while doing so and contribute to both your community and your own success. In doing so, you could live well, help your family live well, help your people live better AND be a shining example to others, as well as proof that the Islamic faith does not demand you blow yourself and innocent people up to be righteous."

To most of us, it would not be a hard choice. To many in the ME, because of the lack of an established moderate middle class, it is. Martyrdom offers instant glory. A chance to strike at those who are successful, to become a hero (martyr collectible baseball cards in the West Bank are just sickening), and venting your own rage.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 1:50:10 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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Let's say that I'm perched on a high precipice that I climbed up on by myself. Let's say that a 'less fortunate' individual resents my high position and insists that I throw him a rope and hoist him up beside me. Foolish infidel that I am, I do just that. As he clambers up beside me, he grins...and then pushes me off the edge, shouting 'allahu akhbar' as I plunge to my death.

You see, he didn't resent my position at all; he resented the fact that it was me, and not him, who was in my position. And he found a way to take my position from me without doing the hard work associated with climbing up on his own. The calculus is simple: if you can steal something with impunity, why build it yourself or work for it? Mohammed figured that out many centuries ago, and his koranic jottings lay out his plans for stealing the world away from its rightful owners.

8 posted on 07/08/2005 1:52:05 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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The only way to stop a terrorist is to eliminate the terrorist from the face of the earth. People who think that you can placate terrorist, who believe as these devils do, are idiots.


10 posted on 07/08/2005 1:59:43 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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Great Cartoon video


http://politicalhumor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.mikeoverbeck.com/osama/diplomacy.html


11 posted on 07/08/2005 2:00:26 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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It's not even as complicated as the article tries to make it. They don't resent us. They just want to convert us or kill us. Following a religion started by a demon-possessed pedophile will do that to you.


12 posted on 07/08/2005 2:03:28 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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I have always thought the reason so many hate America is because they envy us.


13 posted on 07/08/2005 2:04:04 PM PDT by yarddog
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Wow. This is both brilliant and disturbing in pinning down the enormous task we have before us: confronting never-changing human nature. Good luck.


18 posted on 07/08/2005 2:29:27 PM PDT by quesney
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bttt


20 posted on 07/08/2005 2:38:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Just silly. We're not talking about Jacobins or Russian anarchists. We're talking about Islamic fundamentalists. Whatever the reason is, it isn't envy at success, as so many shallow people on this forum, in agreement with this author, have spouted.


21 posted on 07/08/2005 2:49:05 PM PDT by jammer
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I'm not holding my breath for a muslim change of heart.....I'm practicing for better marksmanship.


24 posted on 07/08/2005 2:54:33 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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"I resent your success. I hate you and your kind. So I bomb you "
The Times (U.K.) 07/09/05 by Roger Scruton

APOLOGISTS for terrorism (and they are not in short supply)




ie., terrorist apologists and terrorists denounce evolving into civilized human beings. It's back to the sport of dragging headless goats on the ground by horseback and shooting women in the back of their heads in soccer stadiums for allowing themselves to be raped. Oh joy, tis truly heaven in terror land.


26 posted on 07/08/2005 2:58:48 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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I resent your success. I hate you and your kind.

Sounds like a portion of the latest Howard Dean speech...

27 posted on 07/08/2005 3:06:49 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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It has nothing to do with "success".

It has to do with Israel. We support Israel. Therefore, we are as bad.


28 posted on 07/08/2005 4:20:19 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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I resent your success. I hate you and your kind. So I bomb you

C'mon France - you LOST the Olympics and now it's time to get over it!

34 posted on 07/08/2005 7:41:42 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.1)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; MamaDearest; Velveeta

ping:

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Globalisation%0D%0Aand%20the%20Terrorist%20Threat


37 posted on 07/09/2005 2:38:35 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp Meet YOUR Communist party members in Congress)
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