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I resent your success. I hate you and your kind. So I bomb you
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 07/09/05 | Roger Scruton

Posted on 07/08/2005 1:35:55 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78

Just silly. We're not talking about Jacobins or Russian anarchists. We're talking about Islamic fundamentalists. Whatever the reason is, it isn't envy at success, as so many shallow people on this forum, in agreement with this author, have spouted.


21 posted on 07/08/2005 2:49:05 PM PDT by jammer
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To: whershey
ultimate goal of the religion [Islam] is to be the only accepted religion and only form of government since it's actually both.

This is a crucial point, and one which few people seem to get.

22 posted on 07/08/2005 2:52:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: standing united

Then please answer me this: Why do rich, priveledged, educated Leftists hate America, and its God-fearing, private sector, morally upright citizens? Using the above article, are these "enemies within" resentful of spiritual success? Barbara Boxer, Chuck Schumer and The Swimmer certainly aren't resentful of my salary, nor my contributions to the betterment of mankind.


23 posted on 07/08/2005 2:53:24 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus
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To: Pokey78

I'm not holding my breath for a muslim change of heart.....I'm practicing for better marksmanship.


24 posted on 07/08/2005 2:54:33 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: driftless
I think you are dead on accurate.

Despite what some will say, it sometimes is just as simple as that.

25 posted on 07/08/2005 2:57:54 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Pokey78

"I resent your success. I hate you and your kind. So I bomb you "
The Times (U.K.) 07/09/05 by Roger Scruton

APOLOGISTS for terrorism (and they are not in short supply)




ie., terrorist apologists and terrorists denounce evolving into civilized human beings. It's back to the sport of dragging headless goats on the ground by horseback and shooting women in the back of their heads in soccer stadiums for allowing themselves to be raped. Oh joy, tis truly heaven in terror land.


26 posted on 07/08/2005 2:58:48 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Pokey78; Liz; Howlin; MurryMom
I resent your success. I hate you and your kind.

Sounds like a portion of the latest Howard Dean speech...

27 posted on 07/08/2005 3:06:49 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Pokey78

It has nothing to do with "success".

It has to do with Israel. We support Israel. Therefore, we are as bad.


28 posted on 07/08/2005 4:20:19 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: quesney

When their societies obtain true social justice, they'll stop resenting us.


29 posted on 07/08/2005 6:12:12 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Harrius Magnus
They HATE America, and the God Fearing People, because they do not rely on them (being the socialist government of their dreams)to live their lives. In other words, they cannot control a FREE America, and God Fearing people who put God and family first, and NOT the government!

Most God Fearing Americans are family orientated and are individualist who do not look to the government for everything, and in fact distrust the government, and its continued micro managing of their personal lives, as well as their families.
30 posted on 07/08/2005 6:48:58 PM PDT by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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To: standing united

No, you are not! I am so sick of listening to them and their nonsense -- dangerous nonsense. They are blinded by the their hatred for President Bush, who has the kajunas to call evil by its name.


31 posted on 07/08/2005 7:06:45 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Another dopeless hope fiend.)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Well said, well said! I never realized until reading this that one of the biggest problems in the ME is the absence of a healthy middle class. In fact, that was also missing the Russia and in France. Perhaps it can be traced back to all forms of "terrorism" or rage against the wealthy classes. And look who the socialists are today in America? Hollywood stars, millionaire musicians, the wealthy elite!


32 posted on 07/08/2005 7:12:22 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Another dopeless hope fiend.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Excellent insight! This thread is very insightful!
33 posted on 07/08/2005 7:14:53 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Another dopeless hope fiend.)
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To: Pokey78
I resent your success. I hate you and your kind. So I bomb you

C'mon France - you LOST the Olympics and now it's time to get over it!

34 posted on 07/08/2005 7:41:42 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.1)
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To: standing united
Am I the only one that believes this sentence describes the dummycrats and their hate for President Bush?

Count me in... They are so blind in hatred for GW that they will sacrifice any morality to condem the Prez...

35 posted on 07/08/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: frogjerk

If you are comparing Isslam to either the Nazi or Imperial Japanese Empire, you are WRONG. It is far, far, worse and has been around a lot longer -- 1400 years to be precise, during which it has slaughtered at least half a billion people.


36 posted on 07/09/2005 12:54:02 AM PDT by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; MamaDearest; Velveeta

ping:

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Globalisation%0D%0Aand%20the%20Terrorist%20Threat


37 posted on 07/09/2005 2:38:35 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp Meet YOUR Communist party members in Congress)
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To: Cronos

In the case of Arab terrorism, it's Islam ideology first, envy second; it's both.


38 posted on 07/09/2005 3:37:47 AM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Pokey78

Comes very close to the resentment by the Democrats and the need to destroy?


39 posted on 07/09/2005 4:31:04 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: bethtopaz; whershey; livius; All

I think that's a large part of it. But, others in this thread have correctly identified a fundamental problem in Islam as well, in my opinion. Truly orthodox Muslims, those who observantly follow all of Islam's tenets, have a very limited perspective on the world outside their own. There are two worlds to them: dar al Islam (the house of submission, but it can be interpreted as peace as well), which refers to areas under Islamic theocratic rule, with shariah law as the legal basis of the system and dar al harb (house of war), the lands of the unbelievers, which are seen as targets awaiting Muslim conquest.

A true Muslim cannot be a member of the middle class. But, many of the Islamic terrorists are not actually religious (research it yourself if you don't believe me). Especially the suicide bombers in Israel, and elsewhere. Islam is a convenient excuse/cover to strike at the hated/resented/envied West for many, and for others, it is the reason they attack. In both cases, the rise of Muslim moderates, even if they would be watered down Muslim, would go a long way towards stemming Muslim terrorism. That is, in fact, why the Al Zarqawi terrorists are targetting Shiites and moderates in Iraq. Because right in the heart of Dar al Islam is arrising a new house of Dar al Harb. Democracy is spreading there, moderation is spreading there and education is sure to follow, fundamentally endangering the spread of Islam.

That is why it is so critical we persevere in Iraq. Because, ultimately, it won't be us that will deal the deathblow to the Islamic fundamentalists and the terrorists. It is moderate Muslims who say "Heck no. I am not having a child of mine growing up to be a living bomb. He'll be a lawyer, and she'll be a teacher or a professor. (or whatever) Get the hell out of my country." True fundamentalists of any sort don't tend to do that well in society; by their very nature, they are so radicalized they cannot live in society. That's why they live in compounds and such. Hence why the claim that evangelical Christians are fundamentalist in more than a literal sense is ridiculous. Fundamentalist muslims have managed to make a compound out of the whole Middle East, but it seems some parts of the community want to live a decent life instead. And that threatens to topple the whole house of cards.

So, let me conclude by saying, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition to the true moderate Muslims". Keep training the Iraqi army, keep educating the Iraqi kids properly, keep the elections running smoothly and the tangible benefits of democratic society visible and attainable and the terrorists will be finished as a truly effective force, confined to living in caves and compounds in the desert and mountains.


40 posted on 07/09/2005 8:39:09 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (You make my heart glad by building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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