To: SauronOfMordor
Yes, and the Bible instructions for the conquest of the unbelievers was to slay all the women who have known men, and all the males down to the infant child, then take the girls who had not known men and to sell them into slavery. Slaves were to be taken from the nations that surround, and a coreligionist was not to be treated harshly as a slave and freed on the seventh year. For blessed shall he be who taketh the Babylonian's little ones and smash their heads upon the stone, Psalms tells us.
What is your point? Both books incite violence and encourage conversion of the unbeliever. As far as actual warfare we (if as one of European descent I can say "we" to things neither of us ever did) successfully kicked them out of Spain, held the line in Eastern Europe, and successfully invaded them for a few hundred years around the 12th Century. We crushed the Ottoman Empire and carved them up into bite size pieces and once again Outre-mar ("over the sea" what the Crusaders called the 'Holy Land' to those of you in Rio Linda) is ruled by the Jews. Israel is a great ally of the USA, and we love them for being with us when everyone else in the region was backing the Russian bear.
But loving Israel comes at a price because it pisses off Islamic religious fanatics. These guys are a joke, their armies fold like a lawn chair, their economies are a joke consisting of one or two resource (oil,opium), they make nothing, one half of their population is busy keeping down the other half down. While we are teaching our children how to build buildings and build bridges, they are teaching their children how to kill themselves while blowing up buildings and bridges. Terrorism is mostly a nuisance weapon, as London this morning demonstrates. And because of this you want to junk the Constitution?
52 posted on
07/07/2005 6:43:30 PM PDT by
Mylo
("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
To: Mylo; SauronOfMordor; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; USF; AmericanArchConservative; ...
Terrorism is mostly a nuisance weapon, as London this morning demonstrates. Nuisance? Who are you, John F'king Kerry?
Tell that to the loved ones of those that died.
53 posted on
07/07/2005 7:52:42 PM PDT by
NexusBlue
(AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
To: Mylo; Dark Skies; NexusBlue
"But loving Israel comes at a price because it pisses off Islamic religious fanatics..."
It's all the fault of the Jooooos...is that what you are trying to say?
'First the Saturday People then the Sunday People' doesn't ring a bell with you?
55 posted on
07/07/2005 8:00:46 PM PDT by
Fred Nerks
(Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
To: Mylo; Dark Skies; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; USF; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger
What is your point? Both books incite violence and encourage conversion of the unbeliever. Ummm, Muzzies believe the Koran contains the actual words of their rock god, and is to be followed to the letter. Get it now?
Christianity went through an enlightenment. Still with me?
Imams from Islams holiest sites preach jihad, and pray for the victory the mujahadeen. Do I have to spell that out for you?
Muslims see Mohammed (pig entrails be upon him) as the perfect man, who they are to emulate. He was a genocidal mass-murdering pedophile. Still want to compare that goat-abuser to Jesus?
Who still practices a barbaric ideology in the 21st century and is out there murdering thousands, in the footsteps of their cults founder?
Are you really this ignorant or are you pretending?
56 posted on
07/07/2005 8:04:53 PM PDT by
NexusBlue
(AUTHENTIC HISTORY VS. LIES AND PROPOGANDA <- [Tagline on loan from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid])
To: Mylo
"And because of this you want to junk the Constitution?"
Huh? - who said anything about junking the Constitution? Please explain what parts of the Constitution you feel are in jeopardy and by what means those parts would be invalidated.
If you are referring to the 1st amendment, please notice that the wording merely says that 'CONGRESS shall make no law' - this does not prohibit any state from enacting such laws (notwithstanding SC judicial fiat legislation).
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
As for your other comments re: Islam vs. Christianity, they are non sequitur. Islam is a cult which promotes the destruction and/or subjugation of all non-members of the cult (non-believers). The basic principals and beliefs of this cult are antithetical to a civilized, just and free society. Therefore, it cannot be allowed to continue, nor can any cult or so-called 'religion' which advocates the destruction of others. This is only common sense, not an endorsement of one religion over another.
If you believe that the Constitution forbids the states from outlawing Islam, then you must also accept that it forbids them to outlaw or regulate in any way other cults - even those which practice human sacrifice, beastiality, slavery, and other perversions, all in the name of their 'religion'. That would be suicidal for any society. Self-preservation and defense is a fundamental right for both individuals and civilized, just and free societies.
58 posted on
07/07/2005 8:35:38 PM PDT by
RebelTex
(Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
To: Mylo
9/11 was merely the fruits of a n uisance weapon? Is that what you are telling us here? Are you a closet jihadiost?
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