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'NY Times' and 'Wash Post' Differ on Whether Source Who Gave Matt Cooper Waiver Was Karl Rove
Editor and Publisher ^ | 07/07/05 | E&P Staff

Posted on 07/07/2005 7:16:31 AM PDT by Pikamax

'NY Times' Says Source Who Gave Matt Cooper Waiver Was Karl Rove

By E&P Staff

Published: July 07, 2005 8:45 AM ET

NEW YORK "A short time ago, in somewhat dramatic fashion, I received an express, personal release from my source," Matt Cooper of Time magazine told a federal judge yesterday, in dramatic fashion, just before being sentenced to jail. "It's with a bit of surprise and no small amount of relief that I will comply with this subpoena."

But who was this source? According to The New York Times today, "Cooper's decision to drop his refusal to testify followed discussions on Wednesday morning among lawyers representing Mr. Cooper and Karl Rove, the senior White House political adviser, according to a person who has been officially briefed on the case."

Rove's lawyer had confirmed over the weekend that his client had turned up as a source in Cooper's documents, which Time turned over to the special prosecutor on Friday, but that did not mean that he was the key source in question.

Recent discussions, the Times reported, "centered on whether a legal release signed by Mr. Rove last year was meant to apply specifically to Mr. Cooper, who by its terms would be released from any pledge of confidentiality he had made to Mr. Rove, the person said. Mr. Cooper said in court that he had agreed to testify only after he had received an explicit waiver from his source.

Richard A. Sauber, a lawyer for Cooper, would not discuss whether Cooper was referring to Mr. Rove, nor would he comment on discussions leading up to Cooper's decision. Rove declined to comment on Wednesday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; karlrove
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To: Pukin Dog

My theory is that the original leaker is Joe Wilson himself - not to reporters, but to friends in DC, and it eventually got in the gossip pipeline and became widely known, to the point where people conveying the information would have no particular reason to think it was classified.


61 posted on 07/07/2005 9:31:35 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Piquaboy
Who wrote this NYT article?

Jason Blair?????

62 posted on 07/07/2005 9:33:28 AM PDT by albee (A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what is going on.)
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To: Pikamax

The NY Times SO wants this to be Karl Rove!!


63 posted on 07/07/2005 9:33:48 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Petronski
Does Rove confirm or deny?
That's the acid test.

I think he's content to leave them twisting in the wind right now. When the time is right, he'll say something.

64 posted on 07/07/2005 9:35:22 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Good point.

...And they shall reap a Perfect Rovian Storm.

65 posted on 07/07/2005 9:39:34 AM PDT by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain! ---- IAGO: You are--a senator.)
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To: longtermmemmory

nothing. in fact, when I hear that Cooper's emails are part of the evidence, it makes me wonder. email directly from Rove, I can't imagine Rove would do that. so it must be an email from Cooper to someone else with claims about Rove. that's evidence now? its all here-say, Cooper can send anyone an email that says "Rove told me ABC...". Of course, the media will use these as facts. I can just see emails from Cooper to his wife Mandy about Rove being used as "facts" in this by the NYT.


66 posted on 07/07/2005 10:02:03 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: stopem
Know what? With what just happened to the innocent people of London this seems so unimportant right now.

What happened in London is exactly why this is important.

67 posted on 07/07/2005 5:50:19 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Williams
It appears the reporters did not rely on the earlier, formal releases. They knew everyone in the government was made to sign form releases. So it still could be Rove.

No, it could not still be Rove.

Sheesh

I'll say for the millionth time: In order to leak something, the leaker has to have the knowledge to leak.

68 posted on 07/07/2005 5:54:21 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: NathanBookman

Keep in mind that it was the New York Times that gave Wilson his platform for his op-ed in the first place.

Not to mention Wilson speaking to Times and other reporters anonymously before he outed himself as the former diplomat who had gone to Niger.


69 posted on 07/07/2005 5:56:21 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: oceanview
Rove has always denied he leaked Plame's name.

This story from September 2003, as the ball got rolling, is one example:

Bush Welcomes CIA Leak Probe

There's been nothing, absolutely nothing brought to our attention to suggest any White House involvement, and that includes the vice president's office as well," McClellan said.

In particular, McClellan said it was "ridiculous'' to suggest that Karl Rove, the president's top political operative, was involved, as Wilson once charged. "He wasn't involved," McClellan said of Rove. "The president knows he wasn't involved. ... It's simply not true."

Wilson backtracked Monday, saying Rove did not make the calls but either condoned or did not attempt to step the leak.

~snip~

Notice Wilson himself recanted!

70 posted on 07/07/2005 6:02:47 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: oceanview

There were more than just emails turned over. Cooper's notes would have Rove's name. I doubt there is email correspondence between them.


71 posted on 07/07/2005 6:17:07 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

again, he could write anything down in those notes. and yes, there is no way there are emails from Rove (I sure hope not).


72 posted on 07/07/2005 6:44:44 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: cyncooper

don't get me wrong, I agree with you, all I am saying is these media folks are capable of anything.


73 posted on 07/07/2005 6:45:41 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
...all I am saying is these media folks are capable of anything.

We do agree.

:)

74 posted on 07/07/2005 6:47:36 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Pikamax

I personally believe that Wilson himself is the source. He had motive and means and a reliably docile press corps that has "scruples" against pushing a Bush opponent too hard.


75 posted on 07/07/2005 7:04:57 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: cyncooper
" Keep in mind that it was the New York Times that gave Wilson his platform for his op-ed in the first place.

Not to mention Wilson speaking to Times and other reporters anonymously before he outed himself as the former diplomat who had gone to Niger.

Exactly. And he who outed himself for fame and fortune, then outed his wife to show the "wickedness" of his political "enemies" thereby burnishing his own "righteousness," to say nothing of his book sales.

76 posted on 07/07/2005 7:11:34 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: cyncooper

I hope you are correct. The Wash Post has an article today that comes back to Rove.


77 posted on 07/08/2005 6:42:37 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Kay

The WaPo was also a conduit for Wilson's tale before he outed himself.

I'll stick with facts and not depend on their say-so of what "is".


78 posted on 07/08/2005 7:56:35 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Steve_Seattle
Exactly! It's illogical. But here's what is logical:
1. Wilson goes to Africa, files a report that says there's no uranium connection.
2. White House criticizes, says Wilson didn't do a good job, has no credibility, etc.
3. Wilson says (brags) to reporters: Oh, I think I know something about WMD -- my beautiful wife, Valerie Plame, is an undercover WMD agent at CIA.
79 posted on 07/09/2005 11:06:13 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: atomicweeder

I think the NYT, Post and all the Left are once again building themselves up for a huge letdown. You almost got to admire (in a twisted way) how they keep going back to the well for more sewer water, undaunted and undeterred. But then Hate is a powerful emotion.


80 posted on 07/09/2005 11:14:16 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain (being objective does NOT mean Natalee deserved whatever happened or that her mom isn't sincere)
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