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GONZALES UPDATE Email from C.J. Wilkie
Human Events Online ^ | July 6, 2005 | C.J. Wilkie

Posted on 07/06/2005 9:01:05 PM PDT by guitarist

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To: MJY1288
Activism on the right is the same as activism on the left. A wrong is a wrong, I just wish more people saw it the way some of here do!

The hypocrisy of the far left and the far right knows no bounds.

21 posted on 07/06/2005 9:42:32 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: MJY1288
Roe-v-Wade will die of a thousand cuts, not a single decision handed down from the SCOTUS

If O'Connor, Ginsberg and Rehnquist are replaced with originalists, it will die a quick death and be overturned as many cases are. The court will find its solace when the "sky is falling" left realizes that repealing Roe won't have much effect on a woman's ability to have an abortion in most states.

The "thousand cuts" approach will be germaine to the subsequent approach to ban abortion in the states. Most will only limit it. Utah may be the only state to ban it entirely. Some state supreme courts may even find a right to abortion in state consitutions.

22 posted on 07/06/2005 9:45:46 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: Texasforever

Rino alert? What do you mean it MAY be the right thing to do? Sheesh.

Symbolism over substance, 'eh?


23 posted on 07/06/2005 9:48:56 PM PDT by griffin
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To: griffin
Rino alert? What do you mean it MAY be the right thing to do? Sheesh.

So you want your very own activist court. How are you any different than Ted Kennedy?

24 posted on 07/06/2005 9:52:20 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: guitarist
Gonzales: The Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it is.

Mr. Gonzapes is anti-Second Ammendment.

I'm going to predict, right here and right now, that if Gonzales is nominated, the Republicans will LOSE the Senate majority in 2006. And lose seats in the house.

Why bother voting if a Republican vote means we're still going to get another gun grabbing "my word is law" judicial activist?

25 posted on 07/06/2005 9:53:24 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: Texasforever
In the first place, you could have 9 clones of Clarance Thomas on the court and they could not just decide on their own to overturn R v W. They must have a case based on R v W to adjudicate before any action could be taken.

That won't be hard, as soon as an apparent pro-life majority takes hold of the Court, a test case won't be hard to find.

However, if the argument is that abortion is murder and should be banned in all states then it would take an "activist conservative" court to overturn R v W. It may be the right thing to do BUT it would still be judicial activism.

I apologize in advance if I am putting words into your mouth, but it seems that you are implying that it is "activist" for the Court to overturn a legislative enactment. True "activism" is ignoring the original meaning of the Consitution, regardless of whether a law is upheld or overturned. In fact, if you read the opinions from this term, Clarence Thomas voted to overturn laws more than any justice on the Court.

26 posted on 07/06/2005 9:57:54 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: Texasforever

"The hypocrisy of the far left and the far right knows no bounds."


For Pete's sake! Get your head out! The motivational factors for liberals and conservatives are as different as night and day. To equate both ends of the political spectrum and the means to advance them as equal is so superficial. Would think an engineer could think deeper than that.

You seem to really like this Texas judge. Not everything from TX is great.


27 posted on 07/06/2005 9:58:08 PM PDT by griffin
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To: MJY1288

I meant to copy you on the last post too to get your comments on the second part of my post.


28 posted on 07/06/2005 9:59:04 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: guitarist

I sometimes get the feeling that Gonzales is a "stealth" candidate - - the GOP answer to the Democrats' Souter con job. Of course, the days of scumbags like Rudman being taken seriously are long gone thanks to the dying off of the socialist "mainstream" newsrooms and the continuing takeover of the selection and dissemination of the news by the "new" media.


29 posted on 07/06/2005 9:59:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pillbox_girl

Don't worry, Everyone knew there was gonna be a vacancy on the Court before Gonzales was nominated to be the AG, If GWB nominates Gonzales, it will be his third Nomination that replaces Ginsburg in 2007


30 posted on 07/06/2005 10:00:27 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: guitarist

Bump. Thanks for this acct.

I think Gonzales is very weak on Private Property Rights and lacks an understanding of orignainl intent of the 5th Amendment's Takings Clause (Eminent Domain) based both upon some cases when he ws at the texas Supreme Ct. (e.g., FM Properties Operating Co. v. City of Austin, 22 S.W.3d 868 (Tex. 2000))

and, more recently and significantly, upon his NOT having joined in the Kelo case on the side of property owner. My understanding ws that he had sided with the League of Cities against Kelo while WH Counsel.

As you observe, he ceratinly believes in a Living Consitution and is NOT a strict constructionsist or an Originalist, but rather tends towrd the activist side per National Review Online and others.


31 posted on 07/06/2005 10:01:08 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales iappears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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To: Texas Federalist
I apologize in advance if I am putting words into your mouth, but it seems that you are implying that it is "activist" for the Court to overturn a legislative enactment.

No I said that if the court ruled against R v W on the basis of the 10th amendment then that is a constitutionally sound rejection. However, if the court over ruled the 10th amendment protections of the states as they did in the original R v W then they would be using the same activism of the liberal courts in reverse.

32 posted on 07/06/2005 10:01:22 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: MJY1288
On the contrary, acitivism it NOT reverting back to what the constitution originally intended. Activism is when you take the responsibilites given by the constitution from Legislative Branch to the Judicial Branch of Government. Righting an illegal act is not activism, it's justice.
33 posted on 07/06/2005 10:03:18 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: guitarist
A: The Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it is.

Saying something like this should be grounds for immediate removal from any public office, followed by a speedy prosecution.

L

34 posted on 07/06/2005 10:03:42 PM PDT by Lurker (" Many are already stating that the decision in Kelo renders the contract null and void.")
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To: Texas Federalist
My whole point is that the SCOTUS is not where laws should be overturned. After all, that is what we are all complaining about in the "Takings" ruling two weeks ago. If that case was debated on the Senate Floor, The debate would have been why it was brought to the floor, not it's merits.

Liberals understand that if they place all their eggs on who sits on the bench, they know they can bypass elections. Nothing they have to offer will ever survive the voting booth, so Tyrants like Kennedy and Schumer will fight to the death over who is on the Bench

35 posted on 07/06/2005 10:05:57 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Lurker
Saying something like this should be grounds for immediate removal from any public office, followed by a speedy prosecution.

Tell me, what else was the USSC created for if not to be the final arbiter of the constitution. Why did the founders create the 3rd branch of government for if it has no function?

36 posted on 07/06/2005 10:06:07 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Strict Constructionist and originalist judges are NOT "activist" judges. The president has repeatedly said that his judicial nominees, for all courts, will come from that pool of originalists and strict Constructionists.

Sadly, some people here don't understand the meaning of those words. Neither are they knowledgeable of what the SCTOUS actually does. They want a genie, who when they rub that magic lamp, will grant them what they think they want...IMMEDIATELY. That is also what they want from a president, whom they imagine can act like a dictator or king.

Reality and facts are an anathema to them.

And for all of the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and caviling around here, the one thing some people just don't get, is that GONZALES HASN'T BEEN NOMINATED TO REPLACE O'CONNOR AND HE WAS NEVER ON THAT SHORT LIST TO BEGIN WITH!

37 posted on 07/06/2005 10:07:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: pillbox_girl

Your prediction is funny; really too funny for words and dead wrong to boot. But then, it's based on smoke and mirrors and red herrings.


38 posted on 07/06/2005 10:09:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Iam1ru1-2
There are ways to address bad law and it's spelled out by our Founders. Righting a wrong is not decided by a President or a Judge, it's decided by the people. Either through their elected members of Congress or an Amendment to the Constitution. Activism to reverse Activism is not how our Founders said it should be corrected. "We the People" is how we should address any and all matters concerning the Constitution
39 posted on 07/06/2005 10:11:08 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: nopardons

No they understand it but they want one thing and one thing only, THEIR OWN ACTIVIST COURT". I don't want a judge nominated because of his/her stance on one issue. That person may be ready and willing to overturn R v W but what about the hundreds of other issues he/she may decide?


40 posted on 07/06/2005 10:11:39 PM PDT by Texasforever
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