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One of the Youngest Catholic Cardinals Excommunicates Woman Who Claims to be a Priest
Lifesite ^ | July 5, 2005

Posted on 07/06/2005 5:58:23 AM PDT by NYer

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To: CitizenM

I wonder what the age of the cardinal has to do with it? No reason for that to be in the headline. He is 55? That is not unusually young. Pope Benedict was in his early 50s when he was made a cardinal. Pope John Paul was an archbishop when he was in his 40s.


21 posted on 07/06/2005 6:28:06 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: AnAmericanMother
Because it's not really about a call to the priesthood.
It's about radical feminism, and about attacking the church of their childhood, which tells them that their manner of life is wrong.
They could be Episcopal Priestesses tomorrow, if that was really what they wanted.

You are right on the money.
Their target is exactly the Roman Catholic Church because it represents such a strong force of male priesthood. The Church COUNTS. There are over a billion Catholics. The Church of England/Epicopalians are small potatoes.

They are attacking dad, the strong male force in the family. As leftist feminists, they are attacking men. They hate adult male authority, from dad, to men and even to the roots of their religion. Jesus WAS a man who chose 12 other MEN to follow him. They can't stand the entire male species. They can't hate Jesus, so they vent their spleen where they can.

It stems from deep hatred of themselves. They are sad, pathetic women who never learned to appreciate their own gender.

My own female 2 cents.

22 posted on 07/06/2005 6:32:33 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: mware

"I wish they would be as strict on people receiving the Holy Eucharist."

From April 4, 2004 thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1113221/posts

"Adding to the fray in February, St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke forbade Kerry from taking communion while campaigning in the area due to Kerry's stance on abortion and possibly stem cell research."


23 posted on 07/06/2005 6:38:28 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: starfish923
I agree with you 100 percent - it's a real shame.

I hate to see women who could spend all that energy in a positive way -- raising a family, working in their community, even becoming a sister or lay member of an order -- ruining their lives and everybody around them too by giving in to such hatred of half the human race.

Shoot, I LIKE men -- I married one! < g >

24 posted on 07/06/2005 6:38:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: mware

"I wish they would be as strict on people receiving the Holy Eucharist."

From April 4, 2004 thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1113221/posts

"Adding to the fray in February, St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke forbade Kerry from taking communion while campaigning in the area due to Kerry's stance on abortion and possibly stem cell research."


25 posted on 07/06/2005 6:38:42 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: NYer

Question: How does one recognize who Peter is speaking about in Acts 2:17?

From Joel 2:28-31

17 'And it shall come to pass in the last days' saith God, "I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on My servants and on MY handmaidens I will pour out in those days of My Spirit; and they shall prophesy:


26 posted on 07/06/2005 6:39:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: rwa265

Oops, sorry for the double post.


27 posted on 07/06/2005 6:39:23 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: NYer
All of them! The Catholic Church does not allow for women in the priesthood.

But the bishops, apparently, are okay with pedophiles?

28 posted on 07/06/2005 6:39:42 AM PDT by meandog (FOR LURKING DUers)
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To: NYer
A French Cardinal has excommunicated a Catholic woman claiming she was "ordained" as a priest by three women who call themselves Roman Catholic bishops.

As it should be. If she wants to head up a church, she could move over to C of C.

29 posted on 07/06/2005 6:40:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: rwa265

Lets hope other Bishops follow his lead.


30 posted on 07/06/2005 6:40:00 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: NYer
All of them!

Are you sure? Seems to me the RCC has pussyfooted around with politicians for some time, e.g. Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry.

31 posted on 07/06/2005 6:41:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: rwa265

Sounds like the archbishop of St Louis has done the right thing. Meanwhile here the pro abort US rep is welcomed with open arms by Catholic organizations. She is a "lapsed Catholic" so denying her communion is not an issue. But some of these "church ladies" who are very devout look the other way when it comes to the abortion issue, sad to say.


32 posted on 07/06/2005 6:42:02 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: meandog

"But the bishops, apparently, are okay with pedophiles?"

That's just mean, dog. The bishops are not okay with pedophiles. They made terrible mistakes in the way they handled it, but they were never okay with it.


33 posted on 07/06/2005 6:43:36 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: NYer
Cardinal Archbishop Philippe Barbarin

REALLY young cardinal.
Perhaps the next pope. Whodda thunk such a man would come from secular France?
But, then the PanzerPope is from secular Germany.

for Benedict XVI!

34 posted on 07/06/2005 6:54:36 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: Red Badger

Exactly what I was thinking - but that Cardinal is no lib!


35 posted on 07/06/2005 6:57:48 AM PDT by quiet_vet
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To: biblewonk
Well we certainly know she isn't a legitimate new testament Christian Priest don't we.

I wouldn't know. I tried to look up "new testament christian priests" on the Internet and couldn't find their doctrine. There are lots and lots of churches with the word "Christian" in their names listed, with lots and lots of varied doctrines begun by people like her who started their own religions because they didn't like the previous one.

36 posted on 07/06/2005 7:07:25 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I wouldn't know. I tried to look up "new testament christian priests" on the Internet and couldn't find their doctrine.

Did you try looking up the New Testiment Priesthood in the bible? It's right there by the pope stuff. {snicker}

37 posted on 07/06/2005 7:13:04 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: Juliusz

(I don't get it. What's the purpose of doing such things and claiming that it was done in Catholic Church? There are so many protestant churches where women can be priests. They if they really want to be priests they can do it there.)

The whole point of the act is to try to destroy the Catholic Church. Otherwise she would have done what you suggested.


38 posted on 07/06/2005 7:20:02 AM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: NYer

People naturally follow strength and shun weakness. If more of our bishops were strong in the Faith, we'd be in a much better place right now.


39 posted on 07/06/2005 7:39:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: rwa265
That's just mean, dog. The bishops are not okay with pedophiles. They made terrible mistakes in the way they handled it, but they were never okay with it.

I am not trying to bash RCs, but it seems unreasonable that some of the age-old differences that separate the Roman church with the Eastern Rite churches and those of high Episcopal tradition (w/the obvious exception of the gay Bishop V. Gene Robinson of N.H.) can be bridged--namely allowance of married priests (with celibacy consigned to the monastic orders).
On the issue of women clergy; well, it is hard to justify the fact that in convents the Rev. Mother Superior has similiar duites as a parish priest in that she can hear confession (sacriment), administer the Eucharist (that has been santified by a priest), etc. Admittedly, she can not preform marriages; however emergency baptism and other sacriments are allowed...so, the question is why is Rome so recalcitrant on this touchy issue? (Also, consider the fact that the first person that Christ revealed Himself to when He arose from the dead was a woman; and, also, isn't the Blessed Virgin also a woman?

40 posted on 07/06/2005 8:24:57 AM PDT by meandog (FOR LURKING DUers)
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