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I wrote this a year ago. I was reminded after listening to Michael Graham talking about those in congress considering making sudafed, et al, over the counter drugs because they are a key ingredient in meth.

I wonder how many people would die from over dosing. I suspect it would level off around 3% of the population of the U. S. That is about 7.5 million. That is just a WAG, so I could be wrong.

1 posted on 07/05/2005 9:30:30 AM PDT by Sensei Ern
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If drugs were to be legalized, they should be regulated like alcohol and cigarettes

Bear in mind that some people here would be happy to ban alcohol and cigarettes completely0 (Reason: they don't like them - and think of the children)

39 posted on 07/05/2005 10:04:11 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (No morality can be founded on authority., even if the authority were divine - Sir Alfred Jules Ayer)
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Is the Drug War a Conservative vs Liberal issue?

No...

It's a Constitutionalist vs Prohibitionist issue.

The Constitutution's 14th Amendment makes clear that no law shall abridge our rights to life, liberty or property without due process.

Prohibitionary type laws do so. There is no delegated government power to prohibit in our Constitution.

No level of government, fed, state or local, is authorized to outright prohibit guns, smoking, booze, drugs, etc.. -- Governments are empowered to 'reasonably regulate' such objects, within the Constitutional bounds that protect individual rights, privileges and immunities.

What is truly amazing is that such a basic & understandable Constitutional concept can be opposed by certain groups of Conservatives & Liberals alike.
56 posted on 07/05/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by musanon
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To: Sensei Ern
I am still against drug legalization, but I have more sympathy for the opposing argument.

Whenever I consider a world of legalized drug posession/use I think of two words:

Democratic. Underground.

57 posted on 07/05/2005 10:17:28 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (http://justblogbaby.blogspot.com)
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To: Sensei Ern

I'm with Clarence Thomas on opposing the federal WOD's abuse of the commerce clause, and I think the WOD is one of the worst policies in the history of the US.


92 posted on 07/05/2005 10:36:31 AM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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To: Sensei Ern

3 million overdosing? No way. You essentially have access to any drug you want now, if you want it bad enough, and there are not that many people who OD. As for the need for painkillers, I am one of those who has medical problems and sometimes I need the good stuff just to function. So i wish all the anti-drug people could be in the same situation - oxicodone worked great but I doubt I could get any now. 20 tablets got me through 6 months, so it isn't like I'm some user, just the WOT has negative consequences on many levels.


101 posted on 07/05/2005 10:44:17 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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You sure don't sound like a "Newbie" ... and BTW I totally agree with you


143 posted on 07/05/2005 11:19:53 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Advertisments contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper)
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To: Sensei Ern

All vice laws are unconstitutional.


168 posted on 07/05/2005 11:43:56 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Sensei Ern
The reason I am considering a change is because of the pain I went through this last month. Four weeks ago, I had a root canal done on a tooth...it was Friday.

I had root canals done on my two front teeth when I was six. I managed to live through the pain without a desire to legalize all drugs.

169 posted on 07/05/2005 11:45:06 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Sensei Ern

Meth was declared just today to be the number one drug problem. But the WOD is neither a Conservative nor a Liberal cause. It is a little robot creature running autonomously after Congress budded it off.


198 posted on 07/05/2005 12:21:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Sensei Ern

The drugs being made illegal came in at the same time as the new deal. To me its just another example in a long list of leftist social engineering experiments. Of government knows best.


214 posted on 07/05/2005 12:47:27 PM PDT by ran15
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If one wants to label the war on drugs as conservative or liberal, I believe the criteria should lie at government's role. Many of the liberals I know that support drug legalization would use tax revenues from sales to pay for state sponsored drug rehab programs, among other things. In other words, legalization expands the role of government in everyone's lives. Likewise, enforcement seems to have a similar result. Those who push for huge funding projects on enforcement also expand the role of government in people's lives. Anytime people advocate bigger government for public safety, I see that as a "liberal" policy.

I've always thought that many so-called conservatives miss the snake in the grass on this topic. Advocating the expansion of government for something you personally disaprove of isn't very conservative at all.


232 posted on 07/05/2005 1:35:53 PM PDT by stacytec
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Bump for later flamage perusals.
249 posted on 07/05/2005 2:09:02 PM PDT by zeugma (Democrats and muslims are varelse...)
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The war of drugs is a Christian turd in a conservative toilet. The more it floats, the more it stinks. Time it is flushed. Christians tried this with alcohol prohibition, and vast injustice was done in its name and the spawning of evil was its legacy.

I say this as a Christian and a conservative.


255 posted on 07/05/2005 2:36:24 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Sensei Ern

The borders are wide open. Cocaine is cheap as dirt. You should have got you some. A little topically, a little up the nose, you would have been fine as frog's hair.

Don't blame me, talk to Arbusto. There is no war on drugs.


261 posted on 07/05/2005 2:51:59 PM PDT by johnb838 (I know S.p.e.c.t.e.r. and the truth is not in him. -- Robert Bork)
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Did you sue the dentist for pain and suffering??


295 posted on 07/05/2005 4:12:06 PM PDT by bert ( "Market forces, not political majorities, will compel societies to reconfigure themselves in ways t)
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"Is the Drug War a Conservative or Liberal Issue? "

At this point in time I believe most Freepers understand this issue very well. I would like to see a poll done at Freerepublic on this issue one day.

303 posted on 07/05/2005 4:33:04 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Axiom Nine

Pinggggggggg


309 posted on 07/05/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Three guys walked into a bar. The fourth one ducked.)
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I favor a more radical approach to drug laws: Legalize everything.

Our only drug laws should prohibit sales to minors. Beyond that, if you're stupid enough to want to abuse a particular chemical, then you ought to be allowed to screw your life up as much as you want. The State ought not take over the role of your mother.

323 posted on 07/05/2005 6:14:48 PM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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The question isn't so much whether which drugs should be legal and which side of the drug war liberals and conservatives should be on. It's more whether or not such things are the province of the federal government at all.

My opinion is that drug law is up to the states, but the Supreme Court recently ruled otherwise, noting that the interstate commerce clause gives the feds pretty much total power.


358 posted on 07/06/2005 7:07:14 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Stu Cohen; Hemingway's Ghost; laredo44; Politicalities; Ken H; dajeeps; All
It seems any time I post to one of these pro-drug legalization threads, I get 20 pro-legalizers posting to me at once.

So to all on this thread, suffice it to say that, after what happened to my sister, you can count on me to NEVER be in favor of legalizing drugs.

Rant and rave all you like. Twist what I have said. Ignore the parts you don't wish to acknowledge. Use all the silly hyperbole you like. None of that is going to change my position. . .it is not going to change how and for whom I vote.

If that bothers you, so be it. I'm sure it doesn't bother you near as much as having your sister raped and thrown out a window.

Good day to you all.

359 posted on 07/06/2005 7:08:17 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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