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Freemason Scots 'laid foundations of America'
Times Online (UK) ^ | July 4, 2005 | Kath Gourlay

Posted on 07/05/2005 9:01:32 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan

JULY 4 is a date firmly fixed in the consciousness of all Americans. Perhaps it should also be imprinted in the mind of Scots with a sense of history. Who was involved in the building of the White House? And who helped to start the American War of Independence? The surprising answer might be Scottish freemasons.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; freemasons; masons; scots; scotsirish; scottishamericans
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To: kellynla

http://www.masonicinfo.com/anticatholic.htm

Freemasonry is not anti-Catholic.

The Master of the Lodge in which I entered Freemasonry was a Roman Catholic in good standing with his church.


141 posted on 07/05/2005 6:36:58 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: MeanWestTexan
"I have no idea what you are talking about."

That's good if you don't, because like I said in my post, it's "Leftist's logic".

This is the complete quote - maybe you didn't notice the critical first part:

"Leftist "logic": "Many of America's Founders were "freemasons" therefore the Constitution really isn't in place to guard absolute (self-evident) moral truths and we have the right to change it."

142 posted on 07/05/2005 6:38:08 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Certain things, if not seen as lovely or detestable, are not being correctly seen at all." ~Lewis)
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To: cyborg
A wee bit late to the party, but I'm here. :-)

Hope you and yours had a glorious 4th!

143 posted on 07/05/2005 6:38:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Had an incredible weekend :-)


144 posted on 07/05/2005 6:40:15 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: CondorFlight

You are of course aware that the candles in Christian Churches are snuffed out on Maundy Thursday or Good Friday depending on the denomination/liturgical tradition - it's called Tenebrae. The Church sanctuary is darkened, the textiles removed, etc. Hardly anti-Christian - but rather commemorating in symbol the death of the Savior.


"Slander, Lies, Ignorance and Defamation - Anti-Masons strongsuit since the 1700's."


145 posted on 07/05/2005 6:41:40 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: nopardons

BTW, I'm glad you posted because I remember how you pretty much silenced the opposition in another mason thread. Excellent points were made. I recall that thread went into 800s!


146 posted on 07/05/2005 6:43:26 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: nuffsenuff
Well, I have known a great many Brothers who were Roman Catholic and hadn't been excommunicated.

I think the RC Church has a 'Don't ask...Don't Tell" policy.

147 posted on 07/05/2005 6:45:56 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Getting old sucks, but it is the only viable option! NRA)
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To: CondorFlight

El Toro Caca! You have been cruising the tin-foil blogs again.


148 posted on 07/05/2005 6:47:43 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Getting old sucks, but it is the only viable option! NRA)
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To: kellynla

So many falsehoods!


149 posted on 07/05/2005 6:49:43 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Getting old sucks, but it is the only viable option! NRA)
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To: KevinDavis
Then please do it the FR way and when you are being sarcastic, use the prescribed /sarcasm at the end of the sentence or post.
150 posted on 07/05/2005 6:50:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: CondorFlight

You are repeating - complete with specious sourcing - a fraud and a hoax.

http://www4.vc-net.ne.jp/~klivo/gen/venus.htm

http://www.masonicinfo.com/pike.htm

http://www.masonicinfo.com/books/isittrue.htm


151 posted on 07/05/2005 6:50:18 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: MeanWestTexan
Your ignorance of Catholic Canon Law is only superseded by your ignorance of me.

Rev. Thomas Anslow does not represent the Pope and most definitely does not speak for the Church in Rome. The Canon Law regarding membership in Freemasonry has not changed since 1917.

And anytime you think you have the balls to insult me to my face ("I doubt you were a Marine") you just let me know.

Again, go peddle your mason BS to someone who doesn't know Catholic Canon Law because that dog won't hunt around here.

Class dismissed!
152 posted on 07/05/2005 6:51:01 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: olde north church

That Italian Banking scandal was involved in a clandistine "Masonic" lodge, not recognized by the mainstream Masonic community.


153 posted on 07/05/2005 6:51:36 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Getting old sucks, but it is the only viable option! NRA)
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To: cyborg

Oh, I'm SO very glad to hear that! :-)


154 posted on 07/05/2005 6:51:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: laishly

They always claim that there are "higher...secrect degrees" which none have heard of. Tinfoil chapeau time.


155 posted on 07/05/2005 6:53:10 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Getting old sucks, but it is the only viable option! NRA)
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To: CondorFlight
Yeah, I figured you would be quoting "Morals and Dogma" before long.

What an Idiot!

156 posted on 07/05/2005 6:54:19 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: cyborg
Why thank you!

There are only a couple of the lying tinfolilers here and many others have long ago vanquished them, beautifully; I might add. I only poked them slightly, because many others shoved the facts down their throats already.

157 posted on 07/05/2005 6:54:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

LOL! You have a wonderful way of expressing yourself with words.


158 posted on 07/05/2005 6:55:47 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: CondorFlight

Yeah, but damned little knowledge. You are probably just miffed that your Father wouldn't spill his guts to you.


159 posted on 07/05/2005 6:59:19 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: kellynla
You have less than NO idea just WHY the Catholic Church went off Freemasonry. The reasons were political and monetary; it had NOTHING whatsoever to do with what FreeMasonry is.

And since you don't know anything at all about FreeMasonry, but hate it on such a visceral level, I suggest that you leave this thread. Heck, don't ever go to Washington D.C. either and for GOD's sake, when in Manhattan, do not go see anything at the City Center, because that building was originally a, *gasp*, MASONIC TEMPLE.

160 posted on 07/05/2005 6:59:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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