We simply could not agree on where to place our baby bathtub. We decided not to argue anymore about it and agreed to take the advice of a professional interior decorator.
How naive this writer be. The cause of the bulk of divorces is that "women change". Within 3 to 5 years after marriage they neither look nor act remotely like the friendly, supportive, thin bride they once were.
In our golf league there are a few guys who are younger. We were talking to one of them, the guy is 22, has a very good job. He was talking about his fiancee. I told him I wouldn't do well as a single man his age, given that women are so difficult to deal with. His agreement was emphatic, and immediate. I feel sorry for young men these days.
I have a 20 year old daughter, I love her dearly, but I'm certain one day she will make some poor guy miserable.
We simply could not agree on where to place our baby bathtub. We decided not to argue anymore about it and agreed to take the advice of a professional interior decorator.
Spoken like a true misogynist. Perhaps some men really ARE those things, then treating as IF they are is irrelevant. That list describes my soon-to-be ex. Except he ommited some other adjectives, such as "sociopathic, abusive, irresponsible, cruel, substance-addicted, mentally ill." I did not need to TREAT him like he was those things for him to be those things. He WAS and IS those things. This article is a big cover for the plea for more sex from women. (Flame away.....)
Most (but not all) homeschoolers are notably devoted to the practice of religious faith; and faith provides a metastory, a framework, in which the virtues of marriage and family make sense. More religious devotion = more marriage. Less religious devotion = less marriage. It's not true in every case, but overall, it's a solid sociological fact.
And why do we WANT to have a marriage norm: more people married, and in strong, durable, function-rich marriages?
Because it's pleasing to God and good for people. It helps you become mature, wise, unselfish, healthy, and happy. And it produces the kind of children we think are delightful, the kind of teens we think are hopeful, the kind of people-on-the-street and people-in-the-neighborhood and people-at-the-workplace we rely on to be sane and stable. The bricks. And without marriage and family--- without the bricks --- societies collapse.
bttt
"...So, in that spirit, women are all bitches that henpeck us." ~rolls eyes~
What a whiner.
What there is, in this country, are a bunch of people of both sexes that lack commitment within relationships, and some who think that commitment entitles them to be mean to the other.
Here is another prospective:
I try to be patient, and realize most people views are taken from a narrow perspective; usually the prospective of their life time.
For a few of the macho men of the board, lets take a look at this perspective, for a good portion of our nations history, man did not bring home the bacon,, for most American’s the bacon was on the family farm. Mom did as much work as Dad did, junior also got up for chores. The family was home with each other, bonding, working side by side, with occasional ‘outings’ among neighbors. If Pop went off to war, or had to be gone, Mom worked the farm, as hard as any man.
Then the family moved to the ‘city’, mom, home bound, pop new role ‘bread winner’. Dad has a different out look on Mom at home as he goes off to the city earning a “liven”, and socializing among the town folk. Mom’s value dropped in the eyes of her man.
Hope your starting to get the picture here, I would hate to have to spell it out more for you.
It’s not matter of ‘girly men’ it is a matter of putting your ‘thinking’ cap on’
The author of the articles views are narrow in perspective.
There are several ways to tear down our society one is to male bash the other is to 'woman bash'. To less the value of women in the home, in marriage and society is to damage our nations as much as any insurgent.
Some males on the board need stop whinning like spoiled children who's mommy is not taking care of them, and look at men who have keep their marriages in tact, and a good healthy family, and wife. Note the word difference 'males' vs. 'men'.
I'm usually assuming they mean personality.
But usually they mean underpants.
When I read threads like this, I realize that we are all, all of us, are losing in a big way. I mourn for my children.
why would feminists want to save marriage.
They read an article like this and it speaks only of the left's ongoing success in taking appart marriage. (about fathers with no rights etc...)
The drum beat is marriage is irrelevant to having a child.
Even the word mother is forbiddent.
The left talks of the strong father vs the nuturing parent. (no mother just "parent") Father is eeeevil, mother is gone.
BUMP
It'll never happen. FWIW, I prefer the Christian model. Men, love your wives as Christ loves the Chruch. What did Christ do? He sacrificed his own life so that the Church may be established. Men, love your wives like that.
Women, obey your husbands as unto the Lord. As believers, we are to try as best we can to live the life God wants for us and obey His commandments. Women, obey your husbands like that.
Now, obviously, this is somewhat a generalization. You wouldn't ask a woman to stay with a battering husband or one who is addicted to drugs, etc. It helps to have two people committed to Christ so that the loving and obeying is easier to do during the tough times because you are honoring God even when you don't "feel like" being good to your spouse.
But this is the ideal God has given us and part of the problem with marriage today is not just that we are selfish but that we also enter into it for the wrong reasons. Something needs to make your spouse "loveable" even on the days when he/she is a major pain in the neck. The answer to that is to love them for the position they hold just as God loves His own not for how we behave but because of who we are in Christ.
Without that context, I don't see how as many marriages survive as they do.
Male sluts need to stop whining about the female sluts dumping them and start acting like men.
The title looks OK. ... Women do need to change, but real discerning/leader men wouldn't get involved with women who aren't interested in personal change, and then perhaps the women would learn that to gain acceptance from men, it's much more than just dressing sexy and being good at ...those things.
It's funny how we each blame the other sex when it's such an individual thing. I have seen wimpy men, who sit around and whine about how bad women are, instead of just being a leader and doing the right thing regardless of whether 'women' follow. That's the only way to *find* a good woman, is to be a good man. And vice versa.
In the order of things, the men are to lead, and that means in relationships as well. Not all women, and maybe not even the individual man's wife, may follow, depending on her level of 'screwed-up-ness.' But just because one spouse is a jerk shouldn't stop anyone from getting themselves right. (applies to both male *and* female.)
Women tend to be more emotional and get screwed up that way from making clear relationship decisions; men tend to be led by their hormones and visual temptations and that screws them up that way, preventing them from making good partner decisions.
Both have their own individual hang-ups and differing degrees of sex-oriented-weaknesses that we need to learn to overcome in order to learn to see straight.
Agreed...and my daughters are the ones who are paying the price.
I can’t believe (actually I can) that on a topic such as this, with the people involved in the conversation, we all resort to the blame game.
“It’s all because of women!”
“No! It’s all because of men!”
You all can sit back and get mad at each other and further the detriment to the institution of marriage by bad mouthing the opposite sex, but I will not. Those with the social agenda to end marriage are also trying to make the behaviors that are contributing to the downfall of marriage acceptable. (infidelity, dishonesty, selfishness, etc.) I’m sure they are sitting back laughing when they can turn those such as Freepers on their own. It is not the fault of men or women solely. There are cases where it has been the fault of the man or woman but is not always the fault of one sex or the other all the time. If you believe that it is, then you have been truly brainwashed (or perhaps it is just a defense mechanism for your own mistakes). The infighting has to stop if we are save the institution of marriage, or any other sacred establishment that is endangered. We have everything to lose, they have everything to win, why help them to defeat us?
*snicker* Since SirSuziQ trusts that I will NEVER bring anything frou-frou into this house, he is content to let me choose. However I ALWAYS ask his opinion on any sort of furniture coverings since he needs to be happy with it, too. Considering we don't purchase stuff like that very often, we want to make sure we like it cause we're gonna have it a LONG time.
Right now I'm on a quest for the perfect bedding ensemble for our new Master Suite. It's tough because I don't like flowers, and most geometrics don't do anything for me. I found a nice pattern online, not overly colorful, but nice shades. Unfortunately, I can't find it locally. DRAT!