Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

40,000-year-old footprint of first Americans
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 5-07-2005 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 07/05/2005 3:38:09 AM PDT by Renfield

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-42 next last
To: Renfield

A plastic footprint, was it stamped made in China?


21 posted on 07/05/2005 5:41:17 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Was it heading north?


22 posted on 07/05/2005 6:00:19 AM PDT by joshhiggins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

I thought it was 9000 years ago....

It is funny, you can create a fossil in a lab. There was a man on TV recently who had some fossils that had been carbon dated to be 40 million years old. But when they were cracked open, one had a battery in it, one had a modern hat, and one had a modern hammer. He said carbon dating is very much in question and full of error.

My daughter who is a hydrogeology major, a senior at UT, said it is EASY to create a fossil in the lab, and it would fool the 'experts'.


23 posted on 07/05/2005 6:23:16 AM PDT by buffyt ("If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it?" Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

The pastor at the church I attended when a teenager said that doing anything on a Sunday except praying and worshiping was a sin – until he started playing golf.


24 posted on 07/05/2005 6:42:50 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
Excellent news, thanks.

I guess this will make the claim of 200,000 years at the Calico site a little less far-fetched.

Let me do the first guess of who these people are...Jomon or related to them.

BTW, I'm 6.0 feet and wear an 8.5 size shoe.

25 posted on 07/05/2005 7:37:23 AM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: blam

My, you have tiny feet. I'm 5'11" and wear size 13.


26 posted on 07/05/2005 7:54:27 AM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: buffyt

If your daughter told you that carbon dating is effient or even used to derive dates 40-my ago, demand your money back from the school system.


27 posted on 07/05/2005 8:02:59 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Renfield

Another sacred cow bites the dust.


28 posted on 07/05/2005 8:13:59 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield; blam

Thanks, will add to the catalog, but will ping the following, which is older:

Footsteps in time that add 30,000 years to history of America
Times Online UK | 7/4/05 | Lewis Smith
Posted on 07/04/2005 9:59:36 PM PDT by freedom44
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1436650/posts


29 posted on 07/05/2005 8:21:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution. Please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

30 posted on 07/05/2005 8:23:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
"My, you have tiny feet. I'm 5'11" and wear size 13."

Yup. My whole family is tall and have small feet and hands.

31 posted on 07/05/2005 2:46:01 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Pointblank; Renfield
How do you date a footprint?

Renfield got it right. They are dating the stone the footprint is part of, not the footprint. Pretty good science.

My blogpost on this article:

Kinda makes you question the entire notion of "native Americans."

Finally scientists are being allowed to examine the "Kennewick Man" remains, despite the obstructionist tactics of so called native American activists. I think this has more to do with their attempt to suppress their own illicit historic past than any attempt to "protect their ancestors."

America has been peopled many times by many different branches of humanity. The modern PC attempt to inflict guilt on the latest immigrants is deluded and has more to do with anti-western bigotry than it does with preserving any cultural identity.

We (humans from wherever) have been here a long time. The "experts" don't have a clue how people spread across the world or from where, and they don't have the slightest idea of when. the very notion of "first dibs" is obscene.

At least western European civilization rejected human sacrifice, which was the culture of the dominant "civilizations" at the time of our "invasion."

Human progress is human progress. Don't tell me that cutting the heart out of a sacrifical victim is somehow "pure" and defeating an army of head hunters (OK, heart hunters) is somehow "genocide."

32 posted on 07/05/2005 3:40:01 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Renfield
I don't know much about the subject but it should be obvious to anyone that a plains indian is not even closely related to an indian from the Brazilian rain forest.

Also a Cherokee does not look at all like a Sioux.

33 posted on 07/05/2005 3:44:58 PM PDT by yarddog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale; Renfield; Coyoteman; JimSEA
This makes many books in my library obsolete.

RightWhale, do you remember a few years ago when I asked you the retorical question, "I wonder how many humans were killed during the Barringer Crater impact, 50,000 years ago."

Not such a quirky question all of a sudden.

Were these footprints made by Modern Humans or perhaps Homo-Erectus?

34 posted on 07/27/2005 2:02:17 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

From what I have seen it is not hard for nature to completely wipe any evidence of human or any other habitation from the landscape in just a few years. If something is buried in a dry or cold location, it may be preserved as a fossil, but that is rare. If exposed to the weather even a stone pyramid would be nothing but a hill in 10,000 years. Roads disappear, cities disappear, bones disappear. It would be highly unusual for any sign to remain of somebody that lived in Arizona 50,000 years ago. There could have been millions living there.


35 posted on 07/27/2005 3:41:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: blam

On the subject of migrations, although in a very different part of the world, The August National Geographic has an article on some cave paintings of about 10,000 BC in Borneo that tie those people with the early Australians.


36 posted on 07/27/2005 4:12:40 PM PDT by JimSEA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: JimSEA
"The August National Geographic has an article on some cave paintings of about 10,000 BC in Borneo that tie those people with the early Australians."

I got it yesterday...haven't read it yet.

About the 40k year old footprints, someone's numbers are really off if they are modern. If they are Homo-Erectus then, 'things' (present theories) are really gonna take some revisions. This is a significent find and I can't understand why it's not getting wider coverage.

37 posted on 07/27/2005 4:25:06 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: blam
I can't understand why it's not getting wider coverage

Me neither, as it sounds interesting. But you must realize that sometimes archaeologists move slowly (actually some of them move in mysterious ways, but that's another story).

38 posted on 07/27/2005 6:23:45 PM PDT by Coyoteman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: blam
Calico: A 200,000 Year Old Site In The Americas?
39 posted on 07/30/2005 5:04:02 PM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]


40 posted on 04/21/2006 9:45:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-42 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson