Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5

Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

[TexKat]

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo

[sarasota]

Yes. www.gretawire.com. You can sign up for daily email updates . She indicates that she'll be in Aruba reporting tonight at her usual time (10 EDT).

[Rippersnapper]

I'm not sure what they knew or didn't know, but agree wit hyou that it is very possible that they didn't do anything wrong or criminal and know nothing about what happened after they dropped them off, if that is what they did.

In a way, this is part of what I think is wrong with the Dutch system. It is easy for them to cover up crimes because the public never gets to see what evidence if any is collected.

[GarySpFc]

I don't remember BTH ever using the word murder. She called them criminals.

[onyx]

For starters, they LIED to the police and fingered the two innocent, black security guards!

[Rippersnapper]

Other points and theories have been discussed ad nauseum, too. Shall we lock the thread and not permit anymore threads on the case unless new information and new theories are forth coming?

[monkeywrench]

That has been contradicted by others.

[pamlet]

Some of the witnesses may be CYAing.

Ya think? laugh

What I found interesting was the girl I saw on O'R while talking about drinking responsibly was that she didn't even think they allowed the 17 year old kids into the bars.. Yet Joran was.. ?!?

[onyx]

I've been way too busy today but I managed to see a replay of Beth's televised statements. My heart breaks for her.

[Trust but Verify]

To stop pretending like I know what happened from A to Z, including who, what, where, when and why?

[monkeywrench]

What is wrong with the dutch "system", is that it's okay to lie to police and obstruct justice with no penalty. Apparently the dutch aren't interested in truth.

[Rippersnapper]

Ok, so roughly 24 hours later, the police arrive at Sloots. (I'm guessing they went there first). Is this when the security guards were fingered?

[the Deejay]

Kalpoes aren't leaving Aruba.

Per FNC report.

[sarasota]

Another rumor squashed? Or are they prevented from leaving?

[Rippersnapper]

I never noticed. Now I'm curious.

Me, too. Anyone got a pic?

[sarasota]

Appears the Dutch are more concerned with their reputation as a "safe" place to party.

[the Deejay]

They are FREE TO LEAVE,
but have chosen not to.

[monkeywrench]

Who'd want to go back to that hellhole surinam? I'd heard one of the reporterettes say barbados offered to take them.

[GarySpFc]

I just heard BHT call the two brothers suspects, not criminals and not murders.

[onyx]

Correct. They are free to leave Aruba, but they haven't.... yet.

[Yaelle]

Great post and very good summing up of the situation.

I would also like to add that the reason people should not vacation in Aruba is all in your post. It doesn't matter how wonderful the Dutch legal system is. There are corrupt people in charge in Aruba who would allow the last people seen with Natalee all the time to clean their vehicles and dispose of evidence, because they are well-connected, while believing the liars' stories and arresting innocent people.