Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat
Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.
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Yes the girls that hollered at the girl that was swimming was sitting out at the hotel, at least that is what the mother posted. I will find her post in a few minutes. Actually it is the mother of one of the girls that O'Reilly interviewed.
Seeing what happened to Natalee is a learning tool for both parents and students. Some will benefit from it, and others won't. We can't keep our kids in a bubble.
Natalee just picked the wrong "right" guy. She could have been in Alabama, or away at College and made the same mistake. It really wasn't her fault. He wasn't a beach bum or a biker, for cryin out loud. NO one could have predicted this. No one.
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Why not? They said they were going to tell us things? So far, zip. Maybe tonight when Greta gets back. If they have evidence that could have helped shouldn't they have reported it already. If she has 'proof' that Natalee made a call from the Sloots at 3:00 am the morning Natalee went missing, what is she gaining by not releasing that information?
I find it interesting that Natalee was doing all the same things that her mother vilified the van der Sloots for allowing their son to do, i.e. gambling, staying out until all hours of the night or all night, drinking. From what I've heard, nobody even knew Natalee was missing until she didn't show up for her flight. Wasn't anyone aware that she didn't come back to her hotel that night?
"You don't send a bunch of high-schoolers, particularly girls, off to a foreign island to live it up with little or no supervision. That is stupid, reckless, and in this case, probably deadly."
I disagree. IMO this is not bad judgement by the parents. Natalee was 18 years old. She is legally an adult and was planning on going away, without supervision, to college in a couple months. 18 year old girls are sometimes married, sometimes mothers, sometimes living on thier own, and even fight in the war. Why should they not be able to go on vacation. This situation is sad beyond words but it could and does happen to many others in different places and different situations.
Natalee murdered her companion? News to me.
The only ways to deal with them are to ignore them completely or agree with them 100%. In either case, they become bored and leave.
I agree. Thank you. I'm getting so very tired of people blaming the victim.
There was one agent who was allowed to view the interrogation of the suspects by video. Once they were transferred to KIA (the prison) there was no more video feed, which is when he left.
I find it interesting that the witnesses have all said she was being responsible in her drinking, yet you come here spouting rumors.
I agree on this. We don't know what they did that night. They could have dropped Sloot and Natalee off. I haven't seen proof either. She may even be alive yet.
new freepers to the NH thread gets crazier & crazier!
In the smoky backroom....we were all on the same page, discussing facts!
However, the culture where we (in ANY state; I did not choose to single out a Southern state) collectively OK bikinis and other attire on unescorted pretty girls and send them off to locales where it's all about partying (getting intoxicated and having sex) needs to be looked at in the future to HELP prevent cases like this.
If this trip had even pledged before leaving home that NO ONE would go ANYWHERE without a buddy, and pledged no sex with strangers not on the trip, even, it would have possibly prevented this happening. Those sweet, laced up girls on TV may well have been drunk and dressed sexily in Carlos and Charlie's that night. (Yes, that is perfectly legal. But in my old fashioned mind we as a society need to protect our young women, and that should include modest dress and behavior.)
Natalie is 18. He is not. She can legally drink and gamble. He cannot. He lied she did not.
"What is gained by not releasing that information?" Must be fear-based. First they threaten to open a can of worms, then something causes them to pull back. This time, just after meeting with an attorney. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the attorney part.)
No I am not. I'm just trying to get at what it is you are actually trying to relay.
There are educated guesses, like the ones I posted, and then there is speculation, which you are very familiar with since that constitutes the majority of the activity here.
Oh you have to be an educated guesser to not speculate, but to guess that I will say I believe she is dead and was by the time she was discovered missing. I think Joran had something to do with it
Okay, you are an educated guesser, the rest of us are uneducated speculators. However quite a few of the uneducated speculators reached the same conclusion as you the educated guesser. Umph!!
I agree. Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.
Now, we're fighting scurrilous rumors. Sigh...
From what I know, no one did a bed check that night. This should have been the chaperones' duty, I think.
Most of the kids went back to the hotel, but not to bed. They stayed outside by the pool, or went visiting from room to room. It would be easy to fail to miss one of 140, unless the chaperones had assigned a special place to meet and check in with them the night before departure.
IMHO, The chaperones messed up bigtime. A responsible chaperone would have seen to it that the kids had all checked in with him/her, that their bags were packed, that they had their passports in order, etc. With 7 chaperones, each would have to check only 20 students.
I think the chaperones were out all night partying themselves, acting like a bunch of teenagers. Some Boomers don't want to grow up.
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