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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: Froufrou
The rest is on that monster's head.

I agree. Didn't Sloot say that Natalee came on to him? I'm wondering if at the casino when she asked him to meet her at Carlos & Charlie's, if ol' playboy Sloot the Younger, took that as a come on and invite. Some of the women going there may be easy and he may have thought she was too, because of her invite. Not a smart thing to do. I'm not saying he was right, what I am saying is that he may have viewed that as leading him on. Remember, his best friend Jamie supposedly said that 'she deserved what she got' or something like that?

I think Sloot decided she had led him on. He was already at home, and returned to town because of her invitation. She may not have intended it to be taken the way he took it. I'm pretty sure she didn't. Being inexperienced to the bar scene though, she made a very bad mistake at the casino, in inviting him to meet her at C&C.

I doubt that she was drugged. Sloot didn't think he needed to drug her drink, she did after all invite him to meet her at C&C's. I do think that when she refused his advances that 'something bad happened'.

1,641 posted on 07/07/2005 12:44:54 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: grizzfan

It's too bad there isn't an X option to just ignore someone....


1,642 posted on 07/07/2005 12:45:07 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: grizzfan

There are some people on these threads determined to make sure Natalee and her mother are good and smeared.

I have to wonder why.


1,643 posted on 07/07/2005 12:47:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Rippersnapper

NOt always in countries like Aruba.

I do think she got in the car. Whether she was drugged or however, there came a point when we can reasonably surmise she was not with them willingly.

Unless of course you believe she "ran away" or whatever.

But make no mistake, third world countries have cabs that are cars with meters. I have been in them. And on the islands, very common.


1,644 posted on 07/07/2005 12:48:44 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat
You said:

Since it was assumed by some that Natalee was a run-a-way or was hiding out somewhere because she did not want to return home.

It was only "assumed" to be a runaway by people who had a vested interest in diverting this story away from what really happened.

1,645 posted on 07/07/2005 12:48:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Rippersnapper

You've about beaten that taxi thing to death; for all we know the person who said it misspoke.

Your pictures don't prove a thing.


1,646 posted on 07/07/2005 12:50:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

A few of them even have the same typing styles.


1,647 posted on 07/07/2005 12:50:25 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Rippersnapper

I got that impression last night when Jug Twitty said that he would like to talk to the Kalpoes. I don't remember what he said all that well. Logically, if he would like to talk to the Kalpoe's and the Kalpoes were willing (their mother didn't particularly want them talking to Greta, so I would think she wouldn't want them to talk with Jug), then why aren't they talking? And the attorney of one brother threatened to sue the Twittys. Doesn't sound amenable to discussion to me.


1,648 posted on 07/07/2005 12:50:26 PM PDT by twigs
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To: xsmommy

Try not to feed the trolls.


1,649 posted on 07/07/2005 12:50:35 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
I have been in them. And on the islands, very common.

I recall the experience you related and what you did. You were very fortunate.

PS, I hope Dennis falls apart and doesn't affect you or anyone else on the coastline.

1,650 posted on 07/07/2005 12:53:40 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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1,651 posted on 07/07/2005 12:55:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: twigs
I posted earlier that their attorney didn't want them doing interviews because the investigation is still going on.

I think we do the same in this country.

1,652 posted on 07/07/2005 12:58:05 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Howlin

Hate is everywhere,,there are people who live to provoke, prove their superiority, be ugly and don't have a sense of decency. Too many of them on fR lately.


1,653 posted on 07/07/2005 1:00:48 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Rippersnapper

It's a fair point. But their laws are so different it's hard to know what is expected.


1,654 posted on 07/07/2005 1:01:01 PM PDT by twigs
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To: Rippersnapper

Yes I was exceedingly fortunate. I froze and the driver thought I was armed.

Thank goodness. Otherwise you would be here discussing my lack of responsibility and judgement and otherwise soiling my memory.

I don't forget what people say here. Your compassion is directed to me but ought to be directed to these sad sad people who have lost a lovely daughter.


1,655 posted on 07/07/2005 1:03:25 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Palladin
You are fast wearing out your welcome here.

Again!!!

1,656 posted on 07/07/2005 1:04:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggiefluffs; Howlin; xsmommy; justche

At least one of them left in a snit on ... um, maybe thread two, and said s/he wouldn't return to the Natalee threads.

Trolls are unable to keep their word. Shows serious character flaws, IMO.


1,657 posted on 07/07/2005 1:05:31 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: maggiefluffs; Howlin; grizzfan; Palladin
A few of them even have the same typing styles.

and when one "has to run" the other shows up talking in circles. Same person or tag team?

1,658 posted on 07/07/2005 1:11:14 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: Rippersnapper

Mr. Rip: Apparently you are posting and you have not even read posts short ways back. Caught ya! Greta has indeed talked with one of the Kalpoes, for about 30 minutes. You are only posting paragraphs of inuendos--meaning nothing. Just words. You are taking the pleasure from the chatters.


1,659 posted on 07/07/2005 1:13:33 PM PDT by Li-Li (Induct Roger Maris into the Baseball Hall Of Fame)
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To: cajungirl
I don't forget what people say here. Your compassion is directed to me but ought to be directed to these sad sad people who have lost a lovely daughter.

Just because I don't post my prayers on the thread for them publicly doesn't mean that I don't pray for them.

Mat 6:6-7And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

It also doesn't mean that I am going to turn a blind eye to personal responsibilty. Compassion takes many forms. Remember the old story about being compassionate and giving the poor person money for dinner, and it was pointed out that it would have been even more compassionate to teach that person how to fish, hunt or garden, so that they would be able to feed themseves always, instead of just one meal.

1,660 posted on 07/07/2005 1:14:24 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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