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Koehler writes for Tribune Media Services. His e-mail address is bkoehler@tribune.com.

This nut writes for the local paper here in Lewiston, ID. Let's see what kind of interesting replies we can get for him..

-The Hajman-

1 posted on 07/04/2005 12:16:42 AM PDT by Hajman
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As long as our population of political prisoners held without charges in inhumane conditions...

"political prisoners"?

Anyone who calls captured terrorists "political prisoners" has lost all credibility.

2 posted on 07/04/2005 12:20:46 AM PDT by saquin
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The writer is an ignorant terrorist appeasing pansy


3 posted on 07/04/2005 12:20:55 AM PDT by devolve (-------------------------------------------------)
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The horror of our little war on terror is that we're behaving with the same lurid inhumanity that has, since the 1940s, been associated with Nazism.

Capt. Hyperbole strikes again. Mr. Koehler doesn't come up to the standard for journalist, much less historian. Wonder what Durbin and the DNC paid him for this editorial?
4 posted on 07/04/2005 12:23:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Happy Birthday America!)
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"If Durbin's comparison had truly been out of line, it wouldn't have generated such hysteria."

This has got to be one of those ackwardbass liberals that believes good is evil, black is white, and hate is love.
5 posted on 07/04/2005 12:25:09 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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The Author of this garbage must be suffering from Cranium Rectumitis


6 posted on 07/04/2005 12:27:34 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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The thinking of this fool and all his fellow travelers is made quite clear by the fact that, though he sees Naziism in the wars of liberation by the US of people from two brutal regimes, and though he equates gas chambers with the placing of panties on prisoners heads and pages of the Koran allegedly treated with irreverance, neither he, nor any of his fellow accusers have ever used the label of "Nazi" to describe the murdering, torturing, raping regime of Saddam Hussein, nor the beheading, lynching, flesh-burning ideology of radical Islam. If this fool, or any of his left-wing compatriates were in the least bit intellectually honest, rather than blindly antipathetic toward the US, they would have used "Nazi" to describe the regimes against which we fight first, and thus would have been led to the label of "liberator" for the US and its allies.


7 posted on 07/04/2005 12:28:26 AM PDT by fr_freak
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"...we can kick detainees to death for a good cause..."

This is libel, pure and simple. If I could have Koehler in my company for a few minutes, he would be screaming "freedom of speech" at the top of his lungs!

8 posted on 07/04/2005 12:28:49 AM PDT by nightdriver
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He's such a lunatic .. why bother.


10 posted on 07/04/2005 12:36:47 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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This nut writes for the local paper here in Lewiston, ID.

I thought you had REAL men in Idaho. This slanderous pos needs to be fired - and you can take that any way you like.

11 posted on 07/04/2005 12:41:29 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (As Iraqi's stand up - We will stand down. . President Bush, 6/28/05)
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I fought not the death chamber guards for I was a Man of Peace.
I cast away mine eyes from evil for I was a Holy Man.
I stand before my Eternal Judge awaiting my reward.


14 posted on 07/04/2005 12:55:22 AM PDT by Socratic (Liberal's motto: Capio ergo sum.)
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In his rush to lionize Durbin he forgot to hold to the truth. The fact is, that quite the opposite of warning of impending Nazi-like events Durbin has, by his comparison of ZERO deaths in Gitmo to the approximate 9 MILLION deaths at the hands of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot he has diminished, and even implied such deaths have not occurred. It's a well known axiom that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...Well, Durbin and the democrat party has forgotten the horrors of Auschwitz, Buchenwald and the Killing Fields. By virtue of the left's lost sight of history that the left will be the force pushing for totalitarian regimes...just consider the results of what happens when concepts such as big government and the "it takes a village" mentality take over. Individual freedoms become inconvenient to the smooth function of that big government the left so desperately desires.


15 posted on 07/04/2005 12:59:13 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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When is the next Hajj? Will you be going?

To find a rough parallel to what we are doing today, it is far more instructive to look at what we did ourselves to the Japanes in WWII. And in this case, we are only detaining combatants, where as in WWII we interred the entire population of Japanese-Americans.

You pretty much have to be a hard core Islamakazi idiot to wind up at Gitmo. I am not going to lose a lot of sleep if these guys are held under humane conditions for a few years while we work out this whole struggle-for-global-domination thing. Given my druthers, though, I would prefer that their treatment be humane. We are good enough to do that.


17 posted on 07/04/2005 3:39:18 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES!!)
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That article is the most putrid bunch of shlock that I have read in a long time.


18 posted on 07/04/2005 4:18:14 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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Morons like this remind me of Dennis Miller's line from early in the Iraq war; that to the left, Bush is Hitler, Rumsfeld is Hitler, Cheney is Hitler -- Everybody is Hitler except the mustachioed, anti-Semitic dictator who mass-murders his own people.


19 posted on 07/04/2005 4:19:05 AM PDT by HHFi
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The barf alert should've been posted in parenthesis in the title!


21 posted on 07/04/2005 4:32:04 AM PDT by Stepan12
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ABOUT BOB KOEHLER

Robert Koehler, an award-winning, Chicago-based journalist, is an editor at Tribune Media Services and nationally syndicated writer. You can respond to this column at bob@commonwonders.com

Liberal Weenie alert.

22 posted on 07/04/2005 4:33:37 AM PDT by raybbr
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Democrats on the Defensive (a permanent subcommittee of the DNC)

The ONLY thing of value he wrote.

Pretty good line

25 posted on 07/04/2005 4:43:18 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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The following was written by someone unknown to me. It was forwarded by people that inadvertently cut out the writer's name. Please read it, and, if you think it is correct, share it with others with the ability to think.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start? Many will say September 11th, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us: Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979; Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983; Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983; Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988; First New York World Trade Center attack 1993; Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996; Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998; Dar es Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998; Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000; New York World Trade Center 2001; Pentagon 2001. (Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked? Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.

3. Who were the attackers? In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful? Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm).

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the 6 million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any others. Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way - their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing - by their own pronouncements - killing all of us "infidels". I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with? There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major questions: 1. Can we lose this war?

2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.

We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get. What losing really means is:

We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were neutered and submissive to them.

We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot help them.

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do, will be done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else? The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war? Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by " imploding". That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.

- President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights, we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then. Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him? No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

- Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening, it concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

- Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein. And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq. And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held. Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners - not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them. Can this be for real? The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can. To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned - totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years. Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into all non-Muslims - not just in the United States, but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant'. That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't! If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the World will survive if we are defeated. And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the Press, equal rights for anyone - let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population, of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece. And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power. They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.

26 posted on 07/04/2005 4:53:43 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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My e-mail to this turd was as follows...

"In your Article, " Nazi comparison may fit after all ", I find it interesting that you would tell someone who survived Auschwitz that having panties on their heads is equivalent to being sent to the Gas Chambers.

I find it laughable that to hard-core leftists like yourselves, everyone from Bush to Cheney and Rumsfeld is a "Nazi", except the anti-Semitic megalomaniacs of the Middle-East that kill their own, as well as Jews at the drop of a Koran.

I find it disturbing that you call REAL terrorists "political prisoners"; people who strap explosives to women and children to blow up OTHER women and children.

I find it unbelievable that you collect a paycheck for what dribbles out of your mouth and what passes for a brain.

I find it amusing that you collect said pay in Dollars in a country that you abhor...perhaps N. Korea could use someone of your literary stature....you will, of course have to acquire a taste for grazing like cattle, unless Kim Jong-Il thinks you might look cuter than he does in pumps...but that's a different story.

I find it laughable that you can ever see where you are going unless you have a glass belly button.

And most of all, I find you and ALL of your stripe contemptible and treasonous.

There will come a day that you will find yourself looking for help...pray that those of us who find you reprehensible are still of high enough moral character to render assistance to such as you, for if the Islamazi and true-believing leftists like yourself are ever in power, you will find yourself in the same position as a serf in N. Korea, or a Kurd in Iraq, or a Copt in Egypt.

On that day, as I struggle to retain my freedom, I will have to SERIOUSLY think about my own character in order not to stop and laugh at your plight...I can't promise that I won't...and that is more telling of your character than of mine.
(name)"

28 posted on 07/04/2005 5:24:53 AM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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Hmmmm. I have to wonder:

Libs, such as Bill Clinton, are always saying that something should have been done to stop Hitler before he got strong enough to start the Holocaust and WWII. And what exactly should that something have been? Perhaps taking him and his henchmen by military force and placing them in a detention center like Gitmo? Well, Mr.Koehler? What would you have done? Can't you see that the detainees at Gitmo are the ones reminiscent of the Nazis, or are you so blinded by the walls of your own colon that you couldn't even see a turd with neon lights?
29 posted on 07/04/2005 5:29:19 AM PDT by LRS
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