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Guns Over Democracy
Washington Post ^ | 7/4/5 | Editors

Posted on 07/03/2005 9:51:59 PM PDT by SmithL

PARLIAMENTARIANS gathered in Washington this holiday weekend from Europe and North America arrived just in time to witness the U.S. House of Representatives -- on the eve of the anniversary commemorating the signing of the Declaration of Independence -- trample upon the right of self-determination. Morphing themselves into city council members, a House majority overturned a city law and voted to allow D.C. residents to keep in their homes loaded shotguns and rifles, as well as handguns bought before 1976, unbounded by trigger locks or disassembled. The deed itself makes a mockery of Congress as a federal body. If the action is allowed to stand, however, the consequences could be even worse: The nation's capital will become a deadlier place in which to live.

The gun safety law that the House voted to repeal makes all the sense in the world. It enjoys the full backing of the city's mayor, council, police chief and, most important of all, the city's residents. Perhaps residents and their leaders want the law on the books because they know, even if the House does not, that properly locked or secured guns help prevent gun violence and accidental shootings. Perhaps District residents support their gun safety laws because they now see crime in their city at a 20-year low. Perhaps they also resent this imposition of House judgment because District residents, through their elected leaders, are authorized under the Home Rule Act to make their own laws. But perhaps they are outraged most of all because they have no vote in Congress. At the very time that the House was telling Americans living in the District what their local laws should be, Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D), the District's representative on Capitol Hill, had to stand by and watch

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; counterterrorism; districtofcolumbia; donutwatch; fbi; intelligencereform
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They don't need a Constitution on Washington DC.
1 posted on 07/03/2005 9:52:00 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I thought it was the US CONGRESS who passed the ban in the first place?


2 posted on 07/03/2005 9:56:00 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: SmithL

Wait a minute. If a gun ban is self-determination, allowing guns is not.

Huh??

What the hell is the post smoking


3 posted on 07/03/2005 9:56:40 PM PDT by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: Crazieman

"Wait a minute. If a gun ban is self-determination, allowing guns is not."



The Compost is saying that the "people" of DC don't want the right to have firearms for self-defense. That is probably rubbish except for a few elected officials. I think it is a moot point anyway, since I think it was Congress who passed the ban. I could be wrong about that last part.


4 posted on 07/03/2005 10:01:01 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: SmithL

I usually support less gun control, for most Americans, but I do believe that there may be some people who are basically too stupid to own guns or sharp objects.'Nuff said.


5 posted on 07/03/2005 10:06:10 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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To: SmithL

Washington DC is not part of a direct democracy. The Constitution and the natural rights of man take precedence over the whims of people and pundit alike.


6 posted on 07/03/2005 10:08:12 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: SmithL

---a House majority overturned a city law and voted to allow D.C. residents to keep in their homes loaded shotguns and rifles, as well as handguns bought before 1976, unbounded by trigger locks or disassembled. ---

Except Washington Post employees.

All better.


7 posted on 07/03/2005 10:09:45 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: claudiustg
"Except Washington Post employees. "

Don't forget USPS employees!

8 posted on 07/03/2005 10:13:47 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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To: claudiustg
I'd expected the Washington Post to know better. Fundamental freedoms, like speech, worship, property rights and yes, the RKBA, are not subject to majority vote or need permission from our government to be exercised. For our current elites, the notion our rights come from God - not from the hand of the state, has been long forgotten. Liberals do not like people getting it into their minds freedom is their birthright. So much for celebrating the true spirit of Independence Day in our nation's newsrooms.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
9 posted on 07/03/2005 10:14:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL
What a stupid, Stupid, STUPID editorial from the Washington Post. The Constitution plainly gives the Congress authority over the special territory which is the seat of the national government. Until such time as that provision of the Constitution is amended, the D.C. Council has and can have only such authority as Congress chooses to give.

The Post is therefore ignorant as a hoe handle on the subject of the Constitution. But that is no surprise.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Franco is Still Dead, So Are the Democrats"

10 posted on 07/03/2005 10:14:27 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 65-35 odds on yes.)
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To: SmithL
Article 1, Section 8

The Congress shall have power -- ... To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States...

HISTORY OF DC CODE Constitutional Provision

Ah. Not to worry. Just another part of that pesky Constitution getting in the way of what the lazy libs want to do in order to enslave the Post peons.

11 posted on 07/03/2005 10:22:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you ;-)


12 posted on 07/03/2005 10:22:48 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"The Post is therefore ignorant as a hoe handle on the subject of the Constitution. But that is no surprise. "

I disagree that it is an "ignorance" thing- I believe that it is more a deliberate disinformation thing. After all, if a lie is repeated often enough, and loudly enough, then it becomes true. Or maybe just believed.

13 posted on 07/03/2005 10:23:04 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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To: SmithL
as someone once said:

Banning guns to prevent killings is the same as preventing people from owning cars because they may have accidents.
or some similar crap to that effect - I dont remember the quote exactly.

So all in all, the Congress does a flip-flop and its in the name of Public Safety and For The Children.

14 posted on 07/03/2005 10:28:34 PM PDT by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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To: SmithL
"The gun safety law that the House voted to repeal makes all the sense in the world."

Only on the planet where the editorial staff of the Washington Post live.

The fact is, here on planet Earth, the gubmint provides no (nor can it) protection to the law-abiding citizen. The anti-gun law in D.C. only disarms the law abiding citizen (by definition) and robs him of the power to defend himself.

I say the repeal is a giant step in the CORRECT direction!

15 posted on 07/03/2005 10:34:38 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: SmithL

So leftists think banning law-abiding citizens from owning guns equals "Democracy"?? Delusional elitists.


16 posted on 07/03/2005 10:42:24 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SmithL
"The nation's capital will become a deadlier place in which to live."

My bet is that crime will drop. ....and that the WA Post will fail to report it.

17 posted on 07/03/2005 10:44:08 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: nightdriver

Well maybe a half-step in the right direction. Why not just get rid of 1976 ban on firearms in DC altogether?


18 posted on 07/03/2005 10:48:13 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: SmithL
Allow people to have guns in their homes that aren't disassembled. Have they lost their minds? /sarc
19 posted on 07/03/2005 10:50:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SmithL
Nuttiness from the Post.

Unbelievable that a so-called "major newspaper" could print something thats bizarre.
20 posted on 07/03/2005 11:14:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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