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To: potlatch
"We pay a big premium to go to the doctor and the hospitals but the illegals use the emergency room for a cold and never have to pay. "

That is not unique to illegals. The same rules apply to them as to you.

The problem is that Congress passed a law requiring ERs to stabilize everyone who comes in without regard to ability to pay.

Of course, when asked, the people with insurance furnish that info to the ER and the ER is paid by the insurance companies.

People without insurance are mailed bills which some voluntarily pay and others don't.

It just so happens that in your area the people without insurance (ie, the poor) tend to be Hispanic immigrants. In other areas they are other impoverished groups. It has nothing to do with the legality of their immigration status.

This is a problem inherent in socialism. Just look at Canada and England where the waiting lines for free medical treatment are horrendous.

Middle class and up are learning about the free 7/24 medical care at ERs and are going to them for minor things that they would usually go to their doctor for, but which are not covered by their insurance.

Regardless of anything concerning immigration, the problem of ERs is going to get worse.

23 posted on 07/03/2005 9:59:09 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod

I won't get into an arguement with you bayourod, we have different thoughts on this.

My grandparents from Poland came legally to America, started speaking English, worked hard and opened their own business. They never got anything free.

That is where I come from.


30 posted on 07/03/2005 10:12:05 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: bayourod
Regardless of anything concerning immigration, the problem of ERs is going to get worse.

It's a manufactured crises.

The left wanted the government to take over health care. It's a Socialist government control thing.
First, they had to destroy the system we had, so they could come in as the "saviors of the people."
They sent out the trial lawyers.
The lawyers drove up the cost of doctors insurance for legal expenses through frivolous law suits. The cost was then passed on to the consumers insurance company, driving that cost way up. People could no longer afford the high cost of insurance, and many were left without.
Along comes the Socialist left, promising to "save the day" with Universal Health Care, and they get their government take over of the health care system as planned.

They create the crises to get more government control. "It's gotten so bad, only the government can fix it."

32 posted on 07/03/2005 10:19:13 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: bayourod
That is not unique to illegals. The same rules apply to them as to you.

What is unique to illegals is that they are not supposed to be here in the first place. They are in the United States in violation of Title 8 USC 1325.

38 posted on 07/03/2005 10:48:06 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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