Posted on 07/03/2005 6:11:16 PM PDT by saquin
Happy Fourth of July! Good News! Don't miss it. Hanky panky, terrorists get spanky spanky in the desert!
Nam Vet
That is good news, but I don't expect the Iraqi insurgents to be our new best buddies or anything. Not trying to be a downer here, but they probably can only fight one enemy at a time. They picked the ones that are making them most miserable RIGHT NOW. Tomorrow...it'll be us.
We were expecting something like this. Those #$%& terrorists keep track of holidays and anniversaries.
Hey, guys! Over here!
Many thanks for the ping! This is very interesting reading.
Thanks for the ping!
I will give NYT partial credit. This is not page one news so many people will never have the opportunity to read this. This would not grab their attention the way front cover would just like the prison abuse scandals last year.
Agreed. It's buried but not spiked.
Iraqis are fighting Zarqawi, who is an al-Qaeda terrorist born in Jordan, and the other foreigners he is bringing in over the border to attack our side. CIVIL War? I don't think so.
If they loved our enemies, they might be disillusioned. But love isn't their motivation; hatred is. They hate liberal civilization, and therefore hate America, it's highest embodiment.
Their hatred stems from the utopian idealism that has characterized the left since its inception. They will always hate any embodiment of the free society because, unlike the utopia, it will always be imperfect.
Our external enemies, the militant islamic terrorists, are utopians too. Although their fantasy world is totally incompatible with that of the left, the first steps toward achieving it are the same: You can't evolve the utopia from the real world. It's a revolutionary creation which requires that the real world first be swept away. Nihilism -- hatred of the world and a desire for its destruction -- always goes hand-in-hand with utopianism.
Thus the islamist extremists and the hard left hate us in the name of very different ideologies, yet for the same reason. We, by living in freedom, even by merely existing, stand in the way of their fantasies.
At long last the light dawns.
Red on Red ping!
Sorry, didn't complete the thought in the previous message...
So, Western leftists, even if they aren't presently willing to go so far themselves, will always experience a thrilling identification with active nihilists, those who actually set about sweeping away the existing order. In the sixties they called it "radical chic": Middle class American leftists thrilling over airplane hijackers and murdering Black Panthers. They just can't help it.
I'm a Navy brat. :-) Mom's family is up in NH, while Dad's family came from just south of you in TX.
Well --we can all dream . It would be great to see Iraq become a model for all the Middle Eastern countries. A Democracy working for the good of their people. Its a bit hard for an American to understand why any sane person would go to a neighboring country and commit suicide , killing innocent women and children and call themselves martyrs. Thats why I believe insanity is one of the basic tenets of a cult like Islam.
Just a bunch of ignorant tribesmen.
Nonsense, our soldiers knew full well the sort of oppression that was being laid out. But an otherwise good article, thanks for posting it. Ping.
This is the first article I've read that distinguishes between AQ terrorists and Iraqi insurgents. Very good.
They have a policy about reporting any positive news from Iraq.
Any New York Times reporter attempting to do so will be immediately terminated.
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