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Fuhrman: Grand Jury should probe Terri Schiavo case (if Fla. won't, then US DOJ should, he says)
Newsmax ^ | July 1 05 | Mark Fuhrman

Posted on 07/03/2005 3:58:50 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Famed detective Mark Fuhrman is calling for a grand jury probe of the Terri Schiavo case, saying there's no other way to get to the bottom of the unexplained 1990 collapse of the then-26-year-old woman.

"I want a grand jury investigation," he told ABC Radio host Sean Hannity on Tuesday, adding that Schiavo's parents also favor the move.

Fuhrman, whose book "Silent Witness" hit bookstores this week, said that if Florida prosecutors decline to convene a grand jury probe, the Justice Department should step in.

He asked, "Were Terri's civil rights violated? When I looked at this case, she never got the due process of a death row inmate."

A similar investigative book by Fuhrman, "Murder in Greenwich," is credited with forcing Connecticut prosecutors to re-examine the 1975 murder of Martha Moxley, resulting in the conviction of Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel.

In the Terri Schiavo case, Fuhrman said most of the questions revolve around her husband, Michael, and the conflicting stories he's told over the years.

"Michael Schiavo can't seem to remember anything consistently," he told Hannity, citing discrepancies in Michael's account of his reaction to his wife's collapse and the time he called paramedics.

"We have to have Michael Schiavo sit in front of a grand jury," the famed detective urged, noting that Schiavo has refused over the years to be questioned under oath in a deposition. "[A grand jury] is the only way to investigate this case."

Asked if he'd ever seen a case with so many unanswered questions, Fuhrman told Hannity: "Yeah, it's called Martha Moxley."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: disruptorsdelight; emotionalhysteria; emotionallydisabled; judicialmalfeasance; legallyblind; murder; swindlers; terrischiavo; wifekiller
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To: marajade

You might try reading up on the case, and reading Mark Fuhrman's book.Mark said there is even now more evidence in this case than in the Martha Moxley case, think about that.


61 posted on 07/04/2005 7:46:23 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot
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To: sgtbono2002
You said "You see many times in court that perjured testimony leads to convictions, Police officers who will perjure themselves to get a guilty verdict are a danger to the Justice system."

You threw this BS out as if police do this a lot. They don't. And you cannot offer any statistical proof that proves that they do if you look at the number of cases that pass through the court system.

You posted garbage and the best you can do when challenged is "whatever floats your boat".

Please prove that in many cases police do what you said they do. That they lie in court to obtain convictions.

If you are going to make such an assertion here back it up or at least agree that you meant "in a few cases". It is simply not a common practice that police lie in court.

62 posted on 07/04/2005 9:56:20 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: sgtbono2002

You took the words right out of my mouth.


63 posted on 07/04/2005 10:08:16 AM PDT by dbluvsdjarrett
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To: sgtbono2002

You think Mark Fuhrman was the perjurer at the OJ trial?

Come on, you don't really think that there was no evidence against OJ.

You don't really think Michael Schaivo cared about his 'wife's' wishes.

LOL


64 posted on 07/04/2005 10:16:27 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Always A Marine

OH MY GOD!! Are you really THAT stupid.


65 posted on 07/04/2005 10:22:07 AM PDT by dbluvsdjarrett
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To: dbluvsdjarrett; Always A Marine
They had a blood trail from the place the homicides happened to Simpson's bathroom. From the scene, to his vehicle, from the vehicle, into the house and all the way to his bathroom.

The Simpson case was nothing more than jury nullification. Which does not happen too often but it happens. The only people that were "THAT stupid" were on the jury.

66 posted on 07/04/2005 11:02:39 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: dbluvsdjarrett
Welcome to Free Republic. Good etiquette is always appreciated. That means name calling on your second post on this forum.
67 posted on 07/04/2005 11:17:22 AM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally got here.)
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To: jess35
I would not have voted to convict OJ because the case against him -- Fuhrman or not -- was not beyond a reasonable doubt.

But I would convict Micheal for his act of murder, and Greer's too, was completely done in the public view, they were told it was murder while they were doing it, but they did it anyway.

Micheal Schiavo is a murderer.

68 posted on 07/04/2005 11:22:25 AM PDT by bvw
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To: isthisnickcool

Yet on the civil jury -- given that is the system here -- I would have found against OJ, that he was liable for the murder as to civil damages. The standard of proff is lower, and the proof against him easily met that standard.


69 posted on 07/04/2005 11:25:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: dbluvsdjarrett
OH MY GOD!! Are you really THAT stupid.[?]

Not at all. If you listened to the post-trial comments of a few black female jurors, you might believe that yourself. It wouldn't have made any difference if the prosecution had shown that jury a videotape of OJ slitting his wife's throat; they still would not have convicted him.

Open discussion often challenges politically-correct orthodoxy. Welcome to Free Republic...

70 posted on 07/04/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: sgtbono2002

Couldn.t find evidence on OJ? Remind us who found the bloody glove at Simpson's home? Who noticed the blood on the door handle of the Bronco? He was hated because he found too much evidence.


71 posted on 07/04/2005 11:44:07 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: Sabatier

I am most of the way through the books and I can't help but think the cats have some unusual role in this. They seemed to keep coming up. First Schiavo claims that Terri was up and 5 AM wiping the cats' butts. Quite bizarre to say the least. Why would anyone wipe the butt of a pet, let alone at 5 AM. Then what they thought was Terri's vomit was cat's puke. Then Michael has the cats euthanized (weird not even asking the parents or brother and sister if they want them or trying to find them a home). Suppose Terri got up because she heard the cat throw up. She gets up to clean it up and wakes Michael up in the process. He gets pissed off (I know I don't like getting woken up at 5 AM if I go to sleep late) and it leads to an argument during which Michael does something that causes Terri's injuries. He spend one hour hoping she will revive but sees it is not happening and then calls the Schindlers who tell him to call 911. He talks about her wiping the cats butt because the cats are in his mind but he does not want to say she got up to clean up their puke because that is too close to the truth. Then in anger against the cats, Terri and the Schindlers has them put down.


72 posted on 07/04/2005 11:52:30 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom

Yes I do remember he found the bloody glove and the blood on the Bronco door, then when he went to court and lied all that evidence was compromised, but lets not mention that. The defense attorneys tore him a new ass but its not worth mentioning ater all he is a hero now.


73 posted on 07/04/2005 12:32:44 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: isthisnickcool

http://citizensforjustice.org/system.html
http://www.lawskills.com/case/ga/id/19874/
http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/01/a_heartwarming_story_of_crooked_violent_cops_and_the_strangely_unnecessary_perjury_that_got_them_off_charges_for_burning_and_beating_a_frequent_felon.html
http://www.easyrider.com/police_thugs.htm

This is just a few I got off Google of course you wont look them up or believe them , but give google a try there are a lot of them. By the way I never said it happens a lot, I simply stated that it happens and that Fuhrman had to leave a police career because he was caught at it. A fact that cannot be denied. I posted the message" Whatever floats you boat message" because I was trying to cut off debate. I see that didnt work .


74 posted on 07/04/2005 1:05:11 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002
You said "many times in court"......

I took the term "many" as a large number. The word "many" used in the context you used it is usually a large number. The word "some" is what you meant. Thanks for finally pointing that out.

I guess my boat is floating now and we are through.

75 posted on 07/04/2005 1:21:45 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: isthisnickcool
Exactly. And just wondering if OJ is lurking on this thread. The issue with Fuhrman in the OJ case had nothing to do with the evidence against OJ or his investigation of the case.

Anyway, Fuhrman ended up a winner as a result of the OJ trial, with lucrative book contracts. It was mentioned on radio that he has a contract for another book, seemed it was a murder in the 1960s that remained unsolved until now. (I only caught the tail end and am not sure of the details.)

76 posted on 07/04/2005 1:40:32 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: sgtbono2002

Yes, he was a jerk for lying about using the N word. However, that does not mean he is not a good detective.


77 posted on 07/04/2005 2:13:49 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: isthisnickcool

I sure hope so.


78 posted on 07/04/2005 2:17:23 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: k2blader

Well. It was the law. If Florida has an issue with it, they need to change the laws.


79 posted on 07/04/2005 2:58:37 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

"You might try reading up on the case, and reading Mark Fuhrman's book.Mark said there is even now more evidence in this case than in the Martha Moxley case, think about that."

I've read up on the case. What evidence? I read his book about Martha Moxley. Freep mail me, if you are willing to let me borrow the book. I'll return it when I'm done. I'm not going to buy it.


80 posted on 07/04/2005 3:03:55 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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