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To: Oliver Optic

And where are those social conservatives going to go?

Social conservatives always seem to have their bags packed at the ready, threatening to split if they don't get their way.

Far as I am concerned, walk now and avoid the prolonged goodbyes. If social conservatives want to destroy our best hope of turning this country around by demanding that all things go their way, it is lost anyway.

I am mad already and the nom hasn't been made.


235 posted on 07/01/2005 7:42:48 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

social conservative want a constructionist judge. A constitutionalist. That is the same thing, I believe ALL conservatives wish. If such a judge isn't put on the court, how is the country turned in the right direction?

I don't understand your critisism.


253 posted on 07/01/2005 7:44:57 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: cajungirl
And where are those social conservatives going to go?

Social conservatives always seem to have their bags packed at the ready, threatening to split if they don't get their way.

Far as I am concerned, walk now and avoid the prolonged goodbyes. If social conservatives want to destroy our best hope of turning this country around by demanding that all things go their way, it is lost anyway.

I am mad already and the nom hasn't been made.

Ditto.

271 posted on 07/01/2005 7:47:13 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: cajungirl
If social conservatives want to destroy our best hope of turning this country around by demanding that all things go their way, it is lost anyway.

How would replacing one moderate with another turn this country around?

305 posted on 07/01/2005 7:51:42 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: cajungirl

Excellent post. I am socially conservative (to a point) as well. And I totally agree.


337 posted on 07/01/2005 7:54:38 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: cajungirl
Far as I am concerned, walk now and avoid the prolonged goodbyes.

cajungirl(no)

LOL quick to "casser la paille" I'll bet your hard for your man to handle. We can expect thing to be extremely divisive because it matters so much. If we social conservatives except less then all (ie Stevens, Kennedy, Souter) then, we feel (with good reason), that we will probably get less then nothing.

465 posted on 07/01/2005 8:08:10 AM PDT by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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To: cajungirl
Social conservatives always seem to have their bags packed at the ready, threatening to split if they don't get their way.

Blackmail!

554 posted on 07/01/2005 8:22:24 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: cajungirl; sittnick; ninenot; saradippity; Siobhan; ArrogantBustard; onyx; Cap'n Crunch; ...
Do you suppose that 33 years and 45 million sliced, diced and hamburgerized innocent babies since Herod Blackmun discovered a hitherto unnoticed right to kill innocent babies in the Constitution or wherever is an indication that social conservatives have been too impatient with the process of ending the baby-killing while there were "more important things" like cutting your taxes to attend to?

Social conservatives are not going anywhere. The message of the last three decades in American politics is that right-to-life is the central issue of American politics. Its advocates are Republicans. Its enemies are Demonrats. AND the "moderates" will be roadkill.

Either RTL wins now or, from a position of controlling the GOP and its primaries and nominating procedures, we keep on the task of preventing "moderates" from nomination to the Senate or White House as Republicans, keep on electing RTL folks, keep on stripping Demonrats of electoral vgotes and Senate seats until RTL DOES WIN. This dogged determination (methodology) is in the ancient DNA of the GOP going back to the abolitionists who created the GOP.

If you want to leave the GOP and the conservative movement, leave. If not, not. Lead, follow or get out of the way on Right to Life than which there is NO MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE until permanently resolved in favor of the babies.

There are still plenty of people who, generally for reasons of ancestry or economic condition, STILL think themselves Democrats while being pro-war, pro-military, pro-life, pro-family, against taxes on people of modest means, pro-gun, pro-property, anti-regulation, pro-SMALL business and a lot of other things ordinarily thought to be Republican.

Every ancestral Muffy and Skipper at yacht club or polo club turned from the GOP into the Demonrat Party by the GOP pro-life and pro-family and pro-gun positions will be replaced by ten new "reagan Democrats" entering the GOP.

Don't be so quick to imagine that social conservatives will abandon the GOP to the soulless Muffies and Skippers. This is not Muffy's great, great granddaddy's GOP and it never will be again.

1,050 posted on 07/01/2005 12:00:33 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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