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Census lists fastest-growing cities (San Francisco, Boston losing population)
CNN ^ | June 30, 2005

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:58:59 AM PDT by Skylab

Census lists fastest-growing cities

Thursday, June 30, 2005; Posted: 10:18 a.m. EDT (14:18 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Consider a move to Gilbert, Arizona, if you're looking to trade in that two-bedroom home for four bedrooms and a pool in the back yard.

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"People come here because there are good jobs, it's pretty affordable and it offers lots for the families, too," she said.

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The numbers show new residents flocking to midsize cities in Florida, Arizona, Nevada and California. Hurt by skyrocketing housing prices, people are leaving San Francisco, Boston and other large cities in droves.

San Francisco and Boston found themselves among the cities losing the most people between April 2000 and July 2004. Boston, for example, shed more than 19,000 people, or 3.4 percent of its population, while San Francisco lost 32,000, or 4.2 percent.

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To: Towed_Jumper

Yeah, the nice thing about living in a gentrified city is that fewer kids = lower taxes for schools. The exurbs have high property taxes because every house has a couple of kids or more getting educated at several thousand a year. There are probably more school kids in Mesa than in Boston which is 50% bigger.


81 posted on 06/30/2005 12:44:29 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Skylab

Perhaps Newson belives more homosexual "marriages" are the answer to the population decreasing.

Boston Globe had an article how developers were building homes for the never will be married singles. (homosexuals)

It is little wonder their populations are decreasing.


82 posted on 06/30/2005 12:50:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: beelzepug

"A lot of southern Californians have moved up here to western Washington. So many times I've heard, "How do you people get by up here without a state income tax? You really NEED an income tax."
Thanks for playing. Now, go home!"

That's pretty funny. It is always California's or Californian's fault. Grow up. This is the identical to the blame Bush Democrats. You blame California/Californians even when the folks are no longer Californians or in California.

Face it, the folks leaving California are doing so because they cannot cut it or compete in California for jobs, real estate, etc.. They imagine living like a King after cashing out their real estate gains and move to your neck of the woods because you are pandering to them to do so. When they show up and raise the median price of homes with their cash you whine about home prices going up or bringing their liberal tripe with them. The biggest California bashers are those that couldn' hack it here and moved to your rural hole chasing rural cost of living. They rationalize their failures and attribute them to liberals, instead of facing their own demons.

You are taking a page right out of their book!


83 posted on 06/30/2005 1:30:50 PM PDT by Left Coast Refugee (Abandoned by the GOP on the Left Coast)
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To: Skylab; little jeremiah

"San Francisco and Boston found themselves among the cities losing the most people between April 2000 and July 2004. Boston, for example, shed more than 19,000 people, or 3.4 percent of its population, while San Francisco lost 32,000, or 4.2 percent."

That is what happens when a population center worships abortion and the gay life style and hates marriage, businesses and family values.

I don't know about Boston, but in San Francisco would be really losing population if not for the Illegal Alien Welcome mat being out for about 3 decades.


84 posted on 06/30/2005 3:19:46 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Left Coast Refugee

"That's pretty funny...Grow up."

That whooshing sound you heard was my point going right over your head.
The remark was made that people move to a new place, then try to make it just like where they came from. It's true and it isn't that I blame Californians any more than Minnesotans or Arkansans. But most of the new people coming to my area are from California so they're the ones I have experience with.
I fully understand why so many are leaving CA. And when they first came here 30-odd years ago they COULD live like a king. No more. Now our real estate prices are just like theirs.
As far as my living in a "rural hole", hardly. This is a beautiful corner of the country. Why else would it be growing so fast? And some of us knew this was true before we got "discovered".
But, really, haven't Californians crapped in their own nest? Haven't they?


85 posted on 06/30/2005 3:22:47 PM PDT by beelzepug (powder, patch, ball...)
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To: Southack

Thanks for the excellent summary of gay, greek city-states of America. They are dying have been for 3-4 decades.

Compare that to the top 100 growing metro areas in which GW won with large wins (he may have lost one of these areas).


86 posted on 06/30/2005 3:24:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Primetimedonna

I'm with you, Donna. Another right-winger here, currently living in the Back Bay of Boston, surrounded by political kooks and nuts. But if you enjoy what urban life has to offer -- the culture, the architecture, the history, the stores and restaurants, the mix of people -- you don't just want to abandon everything to the leftists and the criminals. Like SF, even in Boston there are small cadres of sensible people. Some of us just prefer urban living, as others do suburbs or rural. All fine, all have upsides and downsides. All are matters of individual taste.


87 posted on 06/30/2005 3:37:27 PM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy

Thanks for the kind words. The really funny thing is I fell in love with Boston on my first trip there. In a lot of ways it reminds me of San Francisco. It's the only other place I've seen that I felt I could live, but unfortunately I can't take the really hot or the really cold! Guess I'm a wimp. Other places are nice to visit, but I'll take the lifestyle in San Francisco or Boston any day! What the heck, I guess we just like challenges. I like to think every once in a while I actually convert a person or two to our side!! ;')


88 posted on 06/30/2005 3:45:40 PM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: Primetimedonna

Mutual admiration society -- I used to visit SF a lot when I lived in LA, just to get the feeling of real urbanity. It is indeed a beautiful city, one of the most beautifully situated in the world (ranks with places like Rio, Hong Kong, Istanbul, Sidney, Cape Town, IMO). That's hardly an original thought, I realize. I also realize the terrible problems cities like SF and Boston have -- no question -- no question you put up with a certain amount of hassle to live in a city. No question you will live in a smaller space. But the payoffs are worth it, at least you and I agree (and many others would definitely not.) I've lived in LA, NYC, Philly, DC and Boston, and enjoyed all of them immensely. I like music, gourmet food, great hotels and art museums too much not to!! A few of us on the right have to stand and fight in these places. Maybe a losing battle, but sure is fun for me. And obviously for you, too.


89 posted on 06/30/2005 3:56:53 PM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy

We'll just have to continue to hold down the fort!! I don't mind at all. My family has been in San Francisco for five generations now, and thankfully my kids have decided to stay here too. (At least 2 of the 3....my daughter is in LA. Went down for school, met her husband, and he doesn't seem to be ready to make a change yet...we're still hoping!) They all love Boston & NYC too, but have also inherited my wimp when it comes to weather gene, so only visit. Good to be part of your mutual admiration society!


90 posted on 06/30/2005 4:20:38 PM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Ive heard that is exactly what SFO is turning into to. a City with rich and poor. no one in between


91 posted on 06/30/2005 4:22:41 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Grampa Dave

Unfortunately a lot of them are moving to rural areas around where I live and driving the price of property up. Way up. There goes my dream of selling what I got and buying larger acreage. At least on the west coast.


92 posted on 06/30/2005 4:29:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Primetimedonna

I learned when I lived in LA that when you go to SF, they feel sorry for you. LA was pretty much oblivious to this rivalry. Being from the East Coast, I was open-minded about the whole thing and truly loved both places. I know what you mean about weather wimpiness -- five years in LA thinned my blood so much that whenever it got below 60 degrees, it seemed inhumanly cold. I think Boston wackiness is a little more subdued than SF wackiness. But I think the areas have a lot of similarities. Boy, five generations in SF -- your family must have come there in the Gold Rush days -- even before Tony Bennett saw it. Glad you're hanging tough with your city, and it's always impressive to meet a Conservative from SF. The few, the proud. BTW, Kerry's home in Beacon Hill is about a 15 minute walk from my place. His next-door neighbor had huge "Bush-Cheney" signs in the window. Plus, I live a block and a half from Copley Square, where Kerry had his victory headquarters. I can't tell you how much fun it was to walk over there at about 1:15 AM on November 3 to watch his supporters crying after Ohio was called for Bush. Made the move to Boston all worthwhile.


93 posted on 06/30/2005 5:03:35 PM PDT by speedy
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To: Cowman; Blurblogger

"If you live in a red county that borders a blue one you should be out on the border looking for pink Volvos with "Celebrate Perversity" bumper stickers."

I'll just keep a tape of a Hillary speech handy. Not even pink Volvo drivers can take that for very long.


94 posted on 06/30/2005 5:24:42 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<< Ad Campaign for Durbin the Turban in profile)
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To: Southack
And that's the *real* Blue versus Red America. It's not a state by state issue; it's a mega-city versus suburban, x-urban, and rural issue.

My husband keeps pointing out the same thing.

95 posted on 06/30/2005 6:09:16 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Publius6961

When I was a kid, I thought San Francisco was the most perfect city in the US. I loved it. Then got to see the sloth and liberal policies soil the city. Broke mah heart.


96 posted on 07/01/2005 3:27:33 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Towed_Jumper
...hope that makes sense...

It does. It takes a long time to form children. A lot longer than most people seem to think.

97 posted on 07/01/2005 4:17:34 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Skylab
I've heard San Francisco is a beautiful city, but I wouldn't give a bucket of warm spit for it right now.
98 posted on 07/01/2005 4:21:08 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: speedy

Had to laugh with how right on your observation about LA being oblivious to the rivalry!! Even with the Giant - Dodger rivalry, my daughter says walking into a game in LA with Giants attire is not the big deal it is to walk into a Giants game wearing Dodger Blue! You're right, too, about the pity aspect for Los Angelinos. My family was here before Tony Bennett, but not as long as the 5 generations sounded....I'm 3rd Generation, my Granddaughter is 5th! Would have loved to have seen the Kerry headquarters that morning....after all the early celebrating with the exit poll results it must have quite a scene! Keep fighting the good fight, as you said, the Few, the Proud.


99 posted on 07/01/2005 8:05:00 AM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ping!


100 posted on 07/01/2005 12:22:25 PM PDT by markedman (Lay me down to a watery grave)
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