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Congress's true conservative
The American Spectator ^ | 6/30/2005 | John Samples

Posted on 06/30/2005 6:59:19 AM PDT by jla

"I mean, Pence meant it. At least I think so, and I'm pretty cynical. He warned against big government Republicanism and against a GOP that thought the federal government was the solution to every social ill."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mikepence; pence
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To: Dead Corpse
Yep. It SHOULD be Governor McClintock, but the GOP'ers were more worried about getting a famous face instead of someone with real convictions and principles.

Those FR were the stuff of legends. Seeing guys like Roscoe and Kevin Curry allied with the "loserdopians" was surreal to say the least.

61 posted on 06/30/2005 10:03:04 AM PDT by jmc813 ("Small-government conservative" is a redundancy, and "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Well, you already have a "right" to end your life, unless there's a law against suicide I don't know about (and even if there was, how would it be enforced?).

What Kevorkian and Cranford support should *never* be legal.


62 posted on 06/30/2005 10:06:21 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: k2blader
Actually, there are many laws that do just that. There are also seatbelt, car seat, helmet, safe storage of chemicals, smoking, alcohol, on and on and on laws all designed to do ONE thing... Get you to Behave as they want you to. It isn't about harm you may do to others, its all about harming yourself. If you wanna do stupid stuff that'll kill you, why should we stand in the way?

As for the Death Doctors... some of them are just mruders trying to justify getting their kicks. Others, really are just trying to help. Prosecute those like Jack and leave the rest alone.

63 posted on 06/30/2005 10:18:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Gipper08
[ Pence is a true conservative ]

LETS HOPE SO.. America is turning more and more socialist by the day.. and he got elected.. Hopefully he fooled em!...

64 posted on 06/30/2005 10:42:13 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Dead Corpse; jmc813
Or the President kowtowing to Vincente on dissolving our Border

Oh sheesh, Pauldopians, discuss amongst themselves how to divert the truth of ron paul, getting in bed with dennis kookcinich, giving aid and comfort to the enemy(islamofascists).

65 posted on 06/30/2005 11:45:44 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Irontank

Ron Paul is a nut, just like his pal Dennis kuchinich.


66 posted on 06/30/2005 11:56:38 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
So Ron Paul is a nut? You don't agree with him on anything?

He's wrong to side with the likes of that little commie Kucinich on this. That'll I'll agree to. But he is Right a lot more than say Snowe, McCain, Cornyn, Ganske, ect... who are RINO's through and through and yet get a lot more apologetics from the GOP Bots than the criticism they so rightly deserve.

Did you wanna kick out a one liner about Pence too? After all, that IS the topic of the thread.

67 posted on 06/30/2005 12:08:23 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Dane

Are there any domestic issues with which you disagree with Rep. Paul? I've been asking this of freepers who don't like him lately, and have yet to find one Paul-basher who can find one issue. Might you be the first?


68 posted on 06/30/2005 12:55:29 PM PDT by jmc813 ("Small-government conservative" is a redundancy, and "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron.)
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To: jmc813
*crickets*

Typical. Disrupt and run. Or is it worse when they stay and try and spew as much oft refuted BS as they can before getting the thread kicked to the SBR?

69 posted on 06/30/2005 2:25:04 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Dead Corpse

If the topic is Pence, why'd you post a picture of Paul?


70 posted on 06/30/2005 5:17:30 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: jla

Oy, enough with Pence already. He's a great guy. But he will never get the nomination. He could never beat Hillary, Can we please be done with the silly Pence for President threads?


71 posted on 06/30/2005 5:33:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jla

He warned against big government Republicanism and against a GOP that thought the federal government was the solution to every social ill.



then he's toast.
those who run a big part of this party want the nanny state to supervise our TV's, radios, hollywood, Howard Stern's potty mouth and Janet Jackson's nipple rings... not to mention supervision and censorship of 'political blogs' on the web.

blogs like ours.


72 posted on 06/30/2005 5:36:12 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Get your brand new 'penumbra and emanation' scopes while they are hot, two for fifty cents!!!)
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To: montag813

No we can not.It really has not started yet,not even close.


73 posted on 06/30/2005 6:11:27 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08
I appreciate your comments here. You're a good advocate for Pence.
Rep. Pence appears to strive in remaining true to our Constitution as well as the intent of it's signers.
74 posted on 06/30/2005 6:19:07 PM PDT by jla ("Coersion, after all, merely captures man. Freedom captivates him." - - - RR)
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To: montag813

Also,with all due the respect,the idea that true conservatives should shut up about electing a true conservative so you can push your liberal pal Giuliani for 08 is not something I agree with.Conservatism will defeat Hillary.Anything else is dangerous and could destroy our party.


75 posted on 06/30/2005 6:20:08 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: jla

Sometimes I get impatient and do not do it the right way(Like the way I deal with Allen)Most of this isn't malice or a short fuse,I simply need to learn to type.Pence is a far better man than me,and I know soon he will have better people speaking for him than me.I love my country,I love my party.I think we must"right the ship" as Pence puts it or we are in trouble.


76 posted on 06/30/2005 6:23:39 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08
Also,with all due the respect,the idea that true conservatives should shut up about electing a true conservative so you can push your liberal pal Giuliani for 08 is not something I agree with

Yeah, and Bush is just SO Conservative, isn't he.

77 posted on 06/30/2005 6:25:24 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Dead Corpse
So you've got a chip on your shoulder about gays, ok. Are you that insecure that the thought of other people doing things you don't like upsets you so much? How soon after imposing your own version of everything "Right and Good" for America would you require cameras in bedrooms to ensure people aren't doing something naughty?

Back when I used to concern myself with logic that was called Extending the Argument. It is a pretty far leap from a statement that a person opposes legalizing gay marriage to "a chip on your shoulder about gays", insecurity, and wanting cameras in the bedroom.

I commit several instances of civil disobedience daily because I refuse to follow blatantly anti-freedom and unConstitutional laws.

Well, a big whoop tee do to you and a hearty who cares?.

78 posted on 06/30/2005 6:28:50 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Irontank

I was hoping Ron Paul's press conference with Dennis Kucinich and the looney Marxist from Hawaii, demanding we pull out of Iraq, would shut you RP lovers up. Cultists never admit they're nuts.


79 posted on 06/30/2005 6:29:06 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: montag813

No Bush is not a conservative,(he is a good President)This is why we need Pence.


80 posted on 06/30/2005 6:32:32 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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