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Americans Move SOuth, West
FoxNews ^ | 30 June 2005 | AP

Posted on 06/30/2005 4:31:11 AM PDT by bobjam

WASHINGTON — Skyrocketing housing prices are driving people from San Francisco, Boston and other big cities. Warm weather and more affordable living are behind the rapid growth in midsize cities in Florida, Arizona, Nevada and California. Census Bureau (search) figures being released Thursday show no letup in the migration to the South and West, which are home to all 10 of the fastest-growing cities with at least 100,000 people. The Phoenix suburb of Gilbert, Ariz., topped the list. The city grew by more than 46,000 people, or 42 percent, to just over 156,000 residents in a little over four years. Next on the list ranked by percentage gain was Miramar, Fla., followed by North Las Vegas, Nev.; Port St. Lucie, Fla.; and Roseville, Calif. Rounding out the top 10 were Henderson, Nev.; Chandler, Ariz.; Cape Coral, Fla.; and Rancho Cucamonga and Irvine, both in California. San Francisco and Boston found themselves among the cities losing the most people between April 2000 and July 2004. Boston, for example, shed more than 19,000 people, or 3.4 percent of its population. San Francisco lost 32,000, or 4.2 percent.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: census; migration
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Two things at work here: The first is the Law of Supply and Demand. When liberals raise the cost of new housing through regulation and impact fees or restrict new development all together, the price of existing houses rises.

The second is the obvious observation that most Americans would prefer a house with a garage and yard over a condo or apartment with a parking lot. This is the root cause behind the mass flight to the suburbs that began in the late 1940's.

1 posted on 06/30/2005 4:31:11 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: bobjam

It's demographics: as a generation gets older it wants to move into a real house, not a cubicle on the east coast. Also, a crushing tax burden can be devestating for someone young (and with children) with already a lot of debt.


2 posted on 06/30/2005 4:36:56 AM PDT by castawayinabluestate (That government is best which government is least. -- Jefferson)
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To: bobjam

So true. It's certainly not because Gilbert, Mirimar, Las Vegas, or Port St. Lucie are desirable towns. I've been to all of them.....and they....well, in a word....suck.


3 posted on 06/30/2005 4:40:14 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: bobjam

In reality, the market is controled by real estate agents and appraisers. They tell the owners what the porperty is worth and the rest of us just fall into line.

Maybe there should be some cap or limit to the value of property. Who knows. (Sigh)


4 posted on 06/30/2005 4:40:53 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: bobjam

Ever notice that one rarely sees people flocking to largely Liberal areas but one frequently sees masses moving to Conservative areas?

Whyizat?


5 posted on 06/30/2005 4:52:22 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Some day we may have to choose whether we'll be a criminal or a collaborator.)
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To: bobjam
I bought a 3 bedroom 2 bath 2000 sq ft house in Plano Tx. 5 years ago for 134,000. Its now worth about 165,000 and houses around me are being snatched up quick at that price. I have a pool and live in a quiet neighborhood with parks everywhere and a large creek and jogging/bike trail that wanders through the city.

I have friends that visit from Seattle and they go nuts when they hear what I paid for where I live. One of my friends lives in a 700 sq. ft. dump on a nice lot in Shoreline and says its worth 225,000. It may be worth more now since I haven't spoken to him since just after his boy Kerry got spanked in the election.

If these people want to come here to get in on our milk and honey, thats fine, but they need to remember why we red staters have what we have and vote accordingly.

6 posted on 06/30/2005 5:02:18 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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We're putting a contract today on a 4 bedroom, large gameroom 2,873 sq foot home today. It's on a half acre in a North Mississippi suburb of Memphis. It is listed for $188,900.

Hardwood floors and large tub. We have to move we have a baby on the way.


7 posted on 06/30/2005 5:11:17 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: bobjam

Another reason why we will keep winning. For the most part, people who move South and/or West in their 20s and 30s are our voters. The older ones don't hang around to vote rat long enough to do big damage. This is exactly what is happening in the big 4 down state counties in Florida. They are very quickly losing their title as "New York City's sixth borough". It's getting a bit harder for the rats to win these counties and it will continue that way for the foreseeable future.


8 posted on 06/30/2005 5:11:48 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: Sybeck1
Nice! My brothers girlfriend lives in Mississippi. I guess finding work would be the problem of moving there or do you work in Memphis (Fed Ex is there right?)
9 posted on 06/30/2005 5:18:04 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: normy

No I alraedy in town. Fed Ex Ground is moving to my town next year. Prices will surely soar with a 600 jobs added to this small town (Olive Branch).


10 posted on 06/30/2005 5:24:21 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's certainly not because Gilbert, Mirimar, Las Vegas, or Port St. Lucie are desirable towns. I've been to all of them.....and they....well, in a word....suck.

I can't speak for the other places, but this is the view from the street about two blocks from my mom's house, in Gilbert, AZ.

She lives on this lake.

What sucks about it? ;)


11 posted on 06/30/2005 5:28:10 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: bobjam
Blue states in decline as liberals lose base due to radical left takeover of Democratic party. Moderate Democrats disconnected with party platform and embarrassed by leadership which has become anti-American and pro-terrorist. Huge defeats looming in 2006 & 2008 elections.
12 posted on 06/30/2005 5:34:36 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline snapped the last time the MSM blew smoke up my ass. Now its gone forever.)
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To: kstewskis

Admittedly, I haven't been there for years, but I wasn't speaking about one particular parcel. A house does not a community make.


13 posted on 06/30/2005 5:38:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: normy
If these people want to come here to get in on our milk and honey, thats fine

ROFLMAO. Some people only learn the hard way.

but they need to remember why we red staters have what we have and vote accordingly.

Nevermind them.

Once you're living among hordes of people, you'll be thinking and voting like a liberal to save you from the annoyances and interferences of all that crowding.

You think it's a coincidence that densely populated areas vote for democrats?

14 posted on 06/30/2005 5:42:42 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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Americans Move SOuth, West

Good.

Stay away from my neighborhood, it's crowded enough.

15 posted on 06/30/2005 5:43:46 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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this is the view from the street about two blocks from my mom's house, in Gilbert, AZ. She lives on this lake.

What sucks about it? ;)

It looks like a golf course. Ugh.

16 posted on 06/30/2005 5:46:55 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
That's the best part. NO GOLF COURSE!
17 posted on 06/30/2005 5:51:07 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Eagle Eye
Ever notice that one rarely sees people flocking to largely Liberal areas but one frequently sees masses moving to Conservative areas?

Ever notice that one rarely sees people flocking to overpopulated areas but one frequently sees masses moving to less populated areas--to ruin them with overcrowding, too?

18 posted on 06/30/2005 5:51:15 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: anniegetyourgun
When is the last time you were there?

The community has completely changed, no longer a farm town.

(although I prefered the Old Gilbert before it was converted to clean suburbia).

19 posted on 06/30/2005 5:52:59 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Age of Reason

To paraphrase Yogi, "..... it's too popular, nobody goes there anymore."


20 posted on 06/30/2005 5:53:07 AM PDT by Roccus (The collective has started.)
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