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A scolding from Miss Rice
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 27, 2005 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/28/2005 8:40:46 PM PDT by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

From the Washington Post to the Wall Street Journal to the Financial Times, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is being hailed for her latest public scolding of America's Arab allies.

In what columnist David Ignatius calls the "signature line" of her speech at the American University in Cairo, Rice declared:

For 60 years, my country, the United States, pursued stability at the expense of democracy in this region here in the Middle East, and we achieved neither. Now, we are taking a different course.

What is it about Rice's speech that makes it so off-putting and irritating?

First, in treating friends, common decency and diplomacy – and the Good Book, as well – teach us that private admonition is preferable to the public declamation, which is often the mark of the hypocrite.

Second, Rice's public scolding fairly reeks of moral arrogance. Unlike my purblind predecessors, Rice is telling us, my president and I are moved by a higher, nobler cause. While we fight for democracy for Arabs and Muslims, my predecessors, going back to World War II, were only interested in "stability." Thus, they all failed.

The claim is absurd. For Rice's predecessors had to conduct foreign policy during a Cold War in which freedom was at stake and under siege from the greatest enemy the West had known since the Islamic armies invaded France in the eighth century.

Thirty years ago, during Watergate, Richard Nixon ordered a huge arms airlift to save Israel in the Yom Kippur War, for which Golda Meir was eternally grateful. Then, with Dr. Kissinger, he brokered an armistice and effected a severance of Sadat's Egypt from the Soviet Bloc – to the West. Jimmy Carter took it from there, brokering the Camp David peace accords between Egypt and Israel that still hold.

Does Rice believe that because Nixon, Kissinger and Carter did not insist that Sadat hold elections they were on some lesser moral plane than her own virtuous self?

President Bush's father, in the Gulf War, put together a coalition of NATO nations and Arab autocracies, including the Syria of Hafez al-Assad – a ruler no less ruthless than Saddam – to expel Iraq from Kuwait in a six-week war that was a military masterpiece. U.S. casualties were a tenth of those in our current war, an end to which is not remotely in sight.

Was that Bush I achievement diminished because Saudi Arabia, which provided bases and troops, and Kuwait, the nation we rescued, were, neither of them, democracies on the New England model?

From Truman to Bush I, from Acheson to Jim Baker, with rare exceptions, U.S. Middle East policy was crafted, as it should have been, to secure the vital interests of the United States. Who is Rice, and what exactly are her accomplishments, to demean what these men achieved: victory in a half-century Cold War with the Soviet Empire?

There is another problem with this schoolmarmish scolding of Arab nations that aided this country in the Cold War, but have failed to live up to Rice's standards.

Has she or President Bush thought through the consequences should their hectoring succeed in destabilizing and bringing down Saudi Arabia or Egypt? Have they observed how the elections they've been demanding have been going of late?

In southern Lebanon, Hezbollah and the Amal militia took every parliamentary seat. In the West Bank and Gaza, Hamas is so strong the Palestinian Authority postponed the July elections. If Hosni Mubarak held free elections in Egypt, his principal rival would be the Muslim Brotherhood. If the Saudi monarchy should hold elections, Osama bin Laden might not win, but my guess is he makes the runoff.

President Bush is riding for a fall. He sold the war in Iraq to the country on the hard security ground that Saddam had ties to al-Qaida, that he may have had a role in 9-11, that he was hell-bent on getting WMD and atom bombs, and that, when he did, he would give them to fanatics to use on Washington, D.C. The lady who stapled together that false and perhaps falsified case for George Bush was Condi Rice.

Now they tell us the war was about democracy in Iraq and the Middle East – i.e., a nobler cause than any such mundane concerns as American national security.

This is baby boomers working up noble-sounding excuses and preparing high-minded defenses in the event they wind up as failures.

When the Great Society programs of LBJ led to riots, inflation, campus upheaval, crime waves, polarization and a quarter century of almost unbroken Republican rule, liberals exonerated themselves by saying that, even though they had lost the country, they were still blameless, since their motives were so superior to those of their adversaries.

The liberals' defense of the Great Society debacles will be the neocons' defense if we lose the Middle East. But Rice's homilies about how high-minded she was will carry little weight. Americans won't buy it. Just ask Robert McNamara.


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To: sirthomasthemore
I now understand your view is that all terrorists are in Pakistan, funded solely by Saudi Arabia, but now the US has drawn the terrorists into Iraq?

I'm genuinely trying to follow you. Is that your position?

Not quite.

Terrorists are all over the world including (perhaps) in your neighborhood).

As far as anyone knows, yes, I believe the lion's share of funding comes from Saudi Arabia.

Unquestionably THE leader and CHAMPION is in Pakistan. But there are nukes there, so of course we didn't have the balls to run him down.

There is no question that the radical core of the JIHAD is the Wahabbi drek in Saudi Arabia.

But we lack the cojones to do anything in Saudi Arabia for fear of setting off a wildfire of Muslim response.

The President was sold a bill of goods and convinced himself he could win on the cheap. Big surprise.

This is the reality of the situation, not the swagger, smirk and wave of the Napoleonic pseudo cowboy.

81 posted on 06/29/2005 1:55:13 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast
Iconoclast, Wouldn't you agree that Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Sudan and Hussein's Iraq all sponsor terrorism? That's what the intellgence reports say- or do you believe does reports to be unreliable?


Pzifer: “Viagra won’t cause dementia or blindness". (Except if one wears a Black Robe, whereupon it can cause loss of property and other minor Constitutional rights.)

Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello??? We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

82 posted on 06/29/2005 2:12:32 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore
Wouldn't you agree that Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Sudan and Hussein's Iraq all sponsor terrorism? That's what the intellgence reports say- or do you believe does reports to be unreliable?

I have no reason to doubt it.

But, I thought I told you why we preemptively invaded Iraq.

But, so many threads, perhaps I didn't.

Or, you were asleep at the switch?

83 posted on 06/29/2005 2:23:53 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: sirthomasthemore
I must have you confused with another dimwit.

Here:

Terrorists are all over the world including (perhaps) in your neighborhood).

As far as anyone knows, yes, I believe the lion's share of funding comes from Saudi Arabia.

Unquestionably THE leader and CHAMPION is in Pakistan. But there are nukes there, so of course we didn't have the balls to run him down.

There is no question that the radical core of the JIHAD is the Wahabbi drek in Saudi Arabia.

But we lack the cojones to do anything in Saudi Arabia for fear of setting off a wildfire of Muslim response.

The President was sold a bill of goods and convinced himself he could win on the cheap. Big surprise. He thought he was opening a can of "whup ass" and found worms instead.

This is the reality of the situation, not the swagger, smirk and wave of the Napoleonic pseudo cowboy.

84 posted on 06/29/2005 2:48:44 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast
Or, you were asleep at the switch?



Nah, when I'm at the switch, I'm alwwasys alerrelt.

In your original thread, you indicated "[t]he preemptive invasion of Iraq had NOTHING to do with going after the enemy!" - but you didn't explain it further-

That's what lead to the questions; e.g.= who do you consider the enemy; do you believe the WOT is necessary; what would you do instead?

I'm not a reflexive supporter of any thing. But, for a number of reasons, I would have whacked Saddam. If for no other reasons, he was handing out money like candy and bribing everyone in sight, the recipients of the same now trying to be covered up by Volcker.

Bottom line- what did we do wrong, what would you have done instead, and what would you do now.

You don't have to answer these questions now (nor ever for that matter)- the thread's not going anyplace. Answer at your leisure. I'm sure you'd be surprised that I agree with you on some of what you say, but merely not in the way it was phrased in your original post.
Pat's an isolationist, but if you search my threads, I quote his articles often. I just don't think this particular article, where I guess he felt offended by Rice, was one of his best efforts.
85 posted on 06/29/2005 3:03:10 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore
I'm not a reflexive supporter of any thing. But, for a number of reasons, I would have whacked Saddam.

Well hooray for you.

Now our kids are getting whacked bushwhacked on a daily basis. Are you satisfied yet?

That's right ... bushwhacked .. no chance to retaliate, just die or suffer.

Was it worth it to "whack" Saddam, you a-hole?

86 posted on 06/29/2005 4:18:49 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast

It became our business when Saddam started attacking American interests and funding attacks on US citizens. And you should be ashamed for condoning the behavior of a guy who is filling mass-graves with his own people for fun. Saddam doesn't bother you a bit but U.S. intervention in the evil that he visits on his own people and the rest of the world is terrible. What a wonderful view of the world.


87 posted on 06/29/2005 4:19:59 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: sirthomasthemore
Nah, when I'm at the switch, I'm alwwasys alerrelt

Yeah.

Obviously.

You armchair General jerk!.

88 posted on 06/29/2005 4:23:03 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Thank you for your hot, steaming pile of BS.


89 posted on 06/29/2005 4:26:42 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast

Any time.


90 posted on 06/29/2005 4:30:17 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: iconoclast
Was it worth it to "whack" Saddam, you a-hole?

Nice language.

91 posted on 06/29/2005 4:36:41 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: iconoclast

Knock off the personal attacks


92 posted on 06/29/2005 4:39:24 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: iconoclast

Can you not argue without using insults?


93 posted on 06/29/2005 4:39:55 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: stands2reason
Can you not argue without using insults?

Nope, he's just the typical armchair general around here.

94 posted on 06/29/2005 4:41:19 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: iconoclast

We're just making friends all over the place, aren't we?


95 posted on 06/29/2005 4:47:31 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Admin Moderator

What personal attacks?


96 posted on 06/29/2005 4:59:49 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: stands2reason
Can you not argue without using insults?

Usually.

97 posted on 06/29/2005 5:01:17 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
We're just making friends all over the place, aren't we?

Is that what this forum is about?

If I have to suffer fools gladly, I'm outta here!

98 posted on 06/29/2005 5:06:07 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: iconoclast
What personal attacks?

The posts that I just restored

Now knock it off or you will get a time out

99 posted on 06/29/2005 5:06:30 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
The posts that I just restored

What posts?

Just curious.

100 posted on 06/29/2005 5:09:10 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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