Posted on 06/28/2005 8:09:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
BTTT for the strategy!
Eat that, dims!
Gee,How many times do I have to tell you! ;)
I smell a troll,dc. Mr Caps signed up today and that is his only post.
" And say thanks to that nephew of yours! Bet you're proud of him."
Thank you for your kindness. I love him dearly, sort of the son I never had, held him at age two weeks. Do be sure more and more Iraqi's are standing up and being counted. I am sure you are seeing more quite positive articles being posted.
One thing I know for sure. This POTUS is no actor. He would love to be in a jet flying the skies of Iraq.
Many of us agree with your sentiments and have expressed them here on FR.
As a gentle word of advice, though, when we speak in CAPS, it indicates passion, extreme feeling, etc; however, when we speak in ALL CAPS, it is considered shouting. Didn't know if you knew that, so I'm just passing it on if you didn't.
I will keep your nephew in my prayers! I try to keep in touch with what's really going on through blogs and reports here. I am really glad the President mentioned that website. We're going to try and "adopt" a cause to keep the kids busy this summer doing something important. Wish I could do more.
Could be. His message wasn't that bad but his style needs a makeover.
" I will keep your nephew in my prayers!"
That is very much appreciated. I seem to live with these guys, doing mental patrols with them in some rather precarious situations. During my nephew's first deploy to the pit, I used to dream about killing insurgents along the Euphrates river next to say Fallujah. This war has been a bit on the personal side for me. I am so glad you will visit the web site the president mentioned. Many folks do not realize how much it means to these guys to get a little letter from a child, and teenager, and adult, some small package of goodies, say a box stuff full of something like Pringles, candy, junk food they don't get over there.
They don't ask for much yet do so much for this country.
Perhaps the most important thing that came out of his speech was the pitch for Americans to check out the web site. One can sense he has a love for our men and women in uniform and in spirit is one of them. He is a real CIC.
You take care.
Practice Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED. FIRE!
Err, because they've got the guns? :-)
OK, when they are able stand up and fight this on their own, we leave.
When training groups of people, the trainers know, almost to the day when groups of individuals are ready. You can project recruitment, training, numbers, etc. We do it all the time, in police academy's, our own military, boot camp, and covert training of foreign nationals. We've had a lot of experience in this field going back many years.
Are we not saying when it's projected that the Iraqis will be able to stand on their own due to tipping the enemy off? Someone, it may have been the President that said, "if we tell them when we are leaving, they will just sit back and wait till we exit".
Won't they know when we are leaving when we start to wind operations down and start to pull out far in advance?
No doubt, it more than likely be announced far in advance that we are winding operations. I would think pulling up stakes in an operation like this would take many months, at least. More likely over a year or more.
I may be wrong, but when it comes time to start pulling out, and winding down, I don't think it's going to be a big surprise to anyone. The enemy will know this way in advance, not only through media announcements, but simple observations of American military movements.
Just a thought.
wishful thinking though......sigh!!
BTTT!!!!
Not even the neocons believe Laurie Mylroie. She's a nut. If those links had any validity, then the White House would be screaming it from the top of their lungs all day in order to avoid the mess it's in now. Believe what you what. There's no reason to let reality intrude. Just don't be surprised when things don't work out.
Gee, what "ideology" do they have in common? Ummm....Wahabbi Islam, perhaps?
Nope. That would be wrong.
Libya is no longer on the bad list and Khadaffi is apparently no longer crazy. You need to get out of 1986.
At times, I feel like screaming what you wrote.
Keep SHOUTING. I don't mind.
Excellent post. Thanks for putting all these links in one place. Now if you could get the press to read the facts...
We will leave when the Iraqi's turn to us and say "We're ready. We believe in ourselves. We're not going to get discouraged." When they feel they have the strength, the training and the "ownership" of what they have built for their own future. When that happens, we will shake their hands, thank them for being allies and walk away. They may be physically prepared to fight long before they are mentally prepared. That is what we are waiting for.
President Bush said we aren't going to announce when we are going to leave because they will sit back and wait. They are not waiting for us—they know we could sweep right back in and crush them. They want the Iraqis themselves to be vulnerable, not hardened by the fight and honed by experience. By not announcing our "exit date" we make our intentions clear: We're going to be here until they fight as well as we do.
Just remember, we are just now winding down in Germany and Japan. Why? Because the nature of our enemies have changed and with that our relationship. I don't think this will take as long. But I would suspect we will have similar installations in the ME for years to come. Not as enemies, but as allies.
That would be correct.
Shrek 2
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