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Mark Fuhrman: The facts of Terri Schiavo’s life (I read his new book today - five stars
MSNBC ^ | June 28 05 | Fuhrman

Posted on 06/28/2005 7:29:53 PM PDT by churchillbuff

This excerpt, from MSNBC, doesn't get anywhere near the meat of the book - where Fuhrman shows how Michael's inconstent statements, and the timeline of the morning that Terri collapsed, raise a lot of questions - and suspicions. Read the book.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: churchilldisruptor; disruptorsdelight; emotionalhysteria; emotionallydisabled; exploitation; fuhrman; showmethemoney; swindlers; terrischiavo
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To: doug from upland

321 posted on 07/06/2005 9:53:57 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: doug from upland
Oh, and I also now understand why you have an ex.

Yeah he was a self-promoting wannabee too. And since my meeting has started I have to say have a good day. Oh,and it's not at a pizza shop.

And now let's return this thread to the topic. You do recall it was about the Terri book, don't you?

322 posted on 07/06/2005 10:29:45 AM PDT by unbalanced but fair ("Suppose you're an idiot. Suppose you're a congressman. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain)
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To: unbalanced but fair

Wow. You have a meeting. I'm sorry I didn't realize how important you are. Well, go break a leg. Really.


323 posted on 07/06/2005 10:31:22 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: malakhi

Not "ABSOLUTELY ZERO", rather room temparature. For a murder, the body is prime evidene.


324 posted on 07/06/2005 10:34:34 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
For a murder, the body is prime evidene.

There is NO evidence that TS's collapse was due to attempted homicide. NONE.

325 posted on 07/06/2005 10:37:10 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi
As to that night: The collapse itself is evidence. The fact that the ME found no explanation for the collapse -- more evidence. Evidence of attempted murder or of assault.

As to the murder -- we all saw that happen in real time. We all all witnesses -- via news reports.

Are you thinking of keeping any promises?

326 posted on 07/06/2005 10:41:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
As to that night: The collapse itself is evidence.

Completely illogical. It is "evidence" only of the fact that she collapsed. It is NOT evidence of foul play. There IS no evidence of foul play. You are spinning a murder conspiracy out of whole cloth.

327 posted on 07/06/2005 10:47:57 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: doug from upland

Don't you think that everyone really knows that already?


328 posted on 07/06/2005 10:54:18 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: doug from upland

Doug,
I heard that Mr. Fuhrman is considering a book about Vince Foster's "suicide."

Do you know anything about that?


329 posted on 07/06/2005 10:55:54 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: MayflowerMadam

You take that case and bring him to conviction upon prosecution. All with the evidence that there was a 30-40 min timeline in which he might have been able to dial 911 15 years ago. With no way to prove when she really died, it would be awfully difficult.


330 posted on 07/06/2005 10:56:12 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: malakhi
It is evidence of possible foul play.

Look -- in a murder investigation it is very helpful to have the body. And in an attempted murder -- some evidence of a person coming close to death. Here, Terri's collapse is that evidence. The collapse is not sufficient evidence, but it is a strong piece of evidence itself, since it is unexplained. That "unexplained" is usually translated as suspicious, especially when circumstances such has Micheal's later murderous promise-keeping, and the his excessive odometer angst are included.

331 posted on 07/06/2005 11:26:00 AM PDT by bvw
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To: marajade

No, they don't.


332 posted on 07/06/2005 11:33:14 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: krunkygirl

All I heard is the rumor.


333 posted on 07/06/2005 11:33:35 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: bvw
It is evidence of possible foul play.

No, despite your illogical attempts to make it so, it isn't.

A body is just a body. A collapse is just a collapse. Unless there is some EVIDENCE of FOUL PLAY. In this case, there is NONE. The fact that she collapsed, in and of itself, is evidence of nothing other than that she suffered cardiac arrest.

And in an attempted murder -- some evidence of a person coming close to death. Here, Terri's collapse is that evidence.

You really don't get it, do you? You are ASSUMING that it was an attempted murder, and then using the fact of her collapse as 'evidence'. This is an example of the logical fallacy known as the circular argument.

334 posted on 07/06/2005 11:37:18 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: doug from upland

Sure they do.


335 posted on 07/06/2005 11:44:45 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: ArmyTeach; bvw

Perhaps you should ask the poster what brought it up, whom I have kindly pinged for you.


336 posted on 07/06/2005 1:03:32 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Go Team Venture!)
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To: ArmyTeach

The smearing of Detective Fuhrman.


337 posted on 07/06/2005 2:52:35 PM PDT by bvw
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To: malakhi
Unless there is some EVIDENCE of FOUL PLAY. In this case, there is NONE

She collapsed under suspicious circumstances since no cause has been found. That leaves the door wide open.

The fact that she collapsed, in and of itself, is evidence of nothing other than that she suffered cardiac arrest.

Spontaneous cardiac arrest? I think not.

338 posted on 07/06/2005 2:53:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
She collapsed under suspicious circumstances since no cause has been found. That leaves the door wide open.

She collapsed, period. You find the circumstances 'suspicious' because you have already prejudged MS as an abuser and attempted murderer. Aside from your unsubstantiated suspicions, there is NO evidence of foul play. NONE.

Spontaneous cardiac arrest? I think not.

It happens, even in young people.

339 posted on 07/06/2005 3:30:23 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi
She collapsed, period.You find the circumstances 'suspicious' because you have already prejudged MS

Yes. She did. A healthy young woman collapsed the cause of which hasn't been found.

Aside from your unsubstantiated suspicions,

Your assumption. Where did I say he caused the collapse? I merely said it was suspicious. And it is.

340 posted on 07/06/2005 3:50:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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