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To: forty_years

This is a both yes and no question. Allah, apparently is just the title. Obviously Islam has no concept of God revealing His name as in Judaism where He revealed Himself as Yahweh to Moses (a word that pious Jews dare not say because it's too sacred). Jesus being a Jew and who was preaching to Jews didn't have to reveal anything of this matter because it was already known. He did urge his followers to call God--- Abba "Father" but this was to stress a not readily recognized attribute of God...that of a loving father.
What kind of god was Hubal the Moon God of Mecca...I am clueless. It seems as though Allah is some kind of amalgam of Hubal and Jehovah (in His more stern form). Allah seems to have something of a whimsical nature and Muslims are extremely fatalistic. There seems to be nothing of the loving father image that jesus tried to teach or even the "just" God in the Old Testament. Even if you don't believe in Jesus as divine, you have to acknowledge that He was a Jew that was educated in the rabbinical tradiition and that there was a continuum of some kind from Judaism to what developed into Christianity. Muhammad on the other hand was a pagan, a merchant (not even a religious personage in the paganism of Arabia at the time)...and the only contact he had with Jews or Christians was probbly in a mercantile capacity. It appears that he saw that Judaism and Christianity were much more cosmologically developed than the paganism of Mecca. He took was he could and left the rest.
So, to reiterate Allah is a mish-mash God with many of the attributes of Yahweh or the Father (in Christianity) but not quite exactly the same. In a general sense we can say to Muslims that we worship the same God...but the essence of Allah and the essence (ousia in greek) is different upon scrutiny.


45 posted on 06/28/2005 1:44:36 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (Bring Down the Mullahcracy in Iran)
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To: brooklyn dave
I am reminded of something I read about the founding of Islam: Mohammed came into the principal temple of Mecca and destroyed all the statues of the many Arabian deities and declared Allah (the god par excellence) to be the "one god."

My first thought was that, while inconceivable, it is analogous to St. Paul coming to Rome and smashing all the gods in the Pantheon and declaring Zeus to be the "one God."

If my analogy is valid, would the "Pauline deity" as decribed be the same as the God of Abraham?

60 posted on 06/28/2005 2:04:32 PM PDT by Oratam (Distinctness in Persons, Oneness in Essence, Equality in Majesty)
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To: brooklyn dave

Mah ze Yahweh?

There is no "w" in hebrew. Mishegoyim who didn't understand didlysquat came up with "yahweh"


61 posted on 06/28/2005 2:07:39 PM PDT by avile
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To: brooklyn dave

Mah ze Yahweh?

There is no "w" in hebrew. Mishegoyim who didn't understand didlysquat came up with "yahweh"


62 posted on 06/28/2005 2:07:46 PM PDT by avile
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