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Nightmare Vision of Underwater Britain (Global Warming Alert
Scotsman ^ | JAMES REYNOLDS

Posted on 06/28/2005 12:45:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Key points • Worst case scenario would see much of the UK submerged • Research is based on 3 major ice sheets melting • There still remains a 1 in 20 chance of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet melting

Key quote "In terms of the science, the values are approximately right if the ice sheets do melt, with the exception of the last prediction. The question is whether these things are likely to happen or not." - DR TIM OSBORN

THE UK's major coastal cities could be submerged as a result of massive sea-level rises over the next two centuries, transforming the British mainland into a string of islands, according to latest research.

In a doomsday scenario, the melting of ice sheets caused by global warming could mean that Scotland's major coastal conurbations, including Edinburgh, Dundee and Inverness, and smaller settlements such as Peterhead and Ullapool, could be wiped off the map completely.

Experts say the flash floods and sweltering heat that have swept across Britain during the past few weeks could be a harbinger of major problems in the future.

The study suggests that the planet's rapidly changing weather patterns will have a devastating effect on the UK. According to the most extreme model, England and Wales would be most affected, with the centre of London and many cities and coastal towns under water.

The research was led by Professor Bill McGuire, a leading authority on environmental issues at University College London's Benfield Hazard Research Centre. He was commissioned to carry out the work by the satellite network UKTV History to mark the start of the series The British Isles, A Natural History.

Although numerous studies have suggested Britain could be affected by rising sea levels as a result of melting Polar ice caps, the latest research presents a much more extreme outcome - and one with which other experts disagree.

Dr Tim Osborn, from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia - one of the world's leading institutions on global warming - expressed doubts over the predictions, saying they "would not be relevant to society for a very long time, if ever".

Data for the predicted course of events was gathered by a team who spent two months matching rising sea- level scenarios against topography data from a Space Shuttle mission, to produce the first detailed maps showing the possible impact of global warming on the shape of the British landscape.

The team unveiled three potential scenarios:

• A seven-metre rise in sea levels if the Greenland or West Antarctic Ice Sheet melted.

• A 13-metre rise if both the Greenland and West Antarctic Ice Sheet melted.

• An 84-metre rise if the East Antarctic Ice Sheet also melted.

Worryingly, the experts concluded that there was at least a one-in-20 chance that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet would melt in just 200 years.

Previous reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 2001 predicted only that the West Antarctic ice sheet may "begin" to melt in the next two centuries.

The latest paper suggests this new, fast-melt scenario would lead to a rise of six to seven metres in sea levels that would drown the centre of London and leave cities and towns including Edinburgh, Newcastle, Scunthorpe, Bristol, Plymouth, Norwich, Peterborough and Bournemouth waterlogged.

In the highly populated London area, it would mean a massive relocation project, with much of the boroughs of Southwark, Lewisham, Greenwich, Tower Hamlets, Bexley and Barking under water, along with large areas of south Essex and north Kent.

A 13-metre rise would see the sea encroaching far inland, especially in East Anglia, Lincolnshire, East Yorkshire, Cheshire and the Severn Estuary.

The worst scenario is the 84-metre rise. The team pointed out that this would only happen if the world did nothing about carbon gas emissions, leading to a runaway greenhouse effect. If we ever reached this state, little beyond the hills and mountains making up Wales, Scotland, the south-west and spine of England, will remain above the waves.

Professor McGuire said: "If the West Antarctic Ice Sheet melts, along with the continued thermal expansion of seawater, we could see London and many other coastal cities disappearing beneath the waves in the next 200 years."

But Dr Osborn said: "[These predictions] don't seem quite right to me.

"I think they have overestimated [the third and most serious prediction] if all three different ice sheets melted. There would be a big rise of about 65-70 metres, not 84 metres, so they must have double-counted somewhere.

"In terms of the science, the values are approximately right if the ice sheets do melt, with the exception of the last prediction. The question is whether these things are likely to happen or not."

He claimed the most serious prediction involving the melting of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet, where most of the ice in the world exists, was "extremely unlikely".

This is because the East Antarctic is far colder, by some 15C, than the other two major ice sheets, Greenland and the West Antarctic. Even if the global temperature does increase by five or ten degrees, it will still remain frozen.

But Dr Osborn added: "I don't want to say sea-level rise isn't going to happen, as even if you only have a one-metre rise it will cause significant problems."


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1 posted on 06/28/2005 12:45:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Nightmares of Great Britain under water?

These kinds of nightmares are for little babies.

2 posted on 06/28/2005 12:47:03 PM PDT by jpl
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In the highly populated London area, it would mean a massive relocation project, with much of the boroughs of Southwark, Lewisham, Greenwich, Tower Hamlets, Bexley and Barking under water, along with large areas of south Essex and north Kent.

Somehow, Holland handled the problem. ;)

3 posted on 06/28/2005 12:50:37 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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Help me understand this... if we are talking about ice melting that is not supported by a land mass, then we have a rise in sea levels?

Try this one out (simplistic I know)... throw three or four ice cubes in a glass. Fill glass to almost overflowing. Allow ice cubes to melt. See what happens.


4 posted on 06/28/2005 12:54:49 PM PDT by Vercingetorix_Gaul (Veni, Vedi, Butti (I came. I saw. I kicked butt.))
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To: Mr. Jeeves

A few more meters and I would have ocean front property. I guess it's too early to say SURF'S UP.


5 posted on 06/28/2005 12:57:41 PM PDT by cannonball
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To: Vercingetorix_Gaul
That's kind of like another enviro-nightmare scenario I've heard.

They keep saying there is a hole in the ozone layer over Antartica, and that it varies in size. And it's true, there really is a hole in the ozone layer over Antartica.

My friend, who is in grad school studying for his PHd in chemistry, told me something very important. Ozone is formed in the upper atmosphere by a reaction that occurs only in the presence of solar radiation.

His point was this: of course there is a hole in ozone layer over Antartica! It's dark for 6 months out of the year!
6 posted on 06/28/2005 1:00:38 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Vercingetorix_Gaul

They took this into account by identifying ice sheets that are supported by land. They may not have allowed for rebound.


7 posted on 06/28/2005 1:03:44 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: nickcarraway
If the oceans rise 84 meters (275 feet) then the UK will be the least of our problems, but I can see why they'd be concerned. ;^)
8 posted on 06/28/2005 1:05:07 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: nickcarraway
Happy, though unintended consequence....

FRANCE SUBMERGED: FRENCHMEN BATHE..

9 posted on 06/28/2005 1:18:16 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: nickcarraway
Experts say the flash floods and sweltering heat that have swept across Britain during the past few weeks could be a harbinger of major problems in the future.

Funny how the author of this article failed to mention that the flash floods and sweltering heat that have swept across Britain during the past few weeks could also not be a harbinger of major problems in the future.

10 posted on 06/28/2005 1:25:06 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: AntiGuv

Ahhh, another environmental wacko spewing doom and gloom.

The continent of Antarctica is 1 1/2 times the size of the US and holds 90% of the world's ice. The data show there's a small section called the Antarctic Peninsula that's melting and calving icebergs such as the one a year or so ago that was the size of Rhode Island.

But the rest of the continent, the vast majority of the continebt is getting colder and the ice thicker. Antarctica is getting colder not warmer.

Source:Parkinson, C.L. 2002, "Trends in the length of the southern Ocean sea-ice season", Annals of Glaciology, Vol.
34:435-440.

Conclusion: the greatest part of Antarctica experiences a longer sea-ice season, lasting 21 days longer than it did in 1979.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 1:31:48 PM PDT by Neville72
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I've read other studies that reported that even with worse-case plausible scenarios, speculating on major spikes in global temperature, the Antarctic ice would take thousands of years to melt.


12 posted on 06/28/2005 1:34:52 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: nickcarraway

This should help the Tories. Oops! It also would mean that the Netherlands and Belgium would disappear along with major parts of France. Answer: return to horses and carriages in those countries and do it quickly! Junk science has infected the Euros big time.


13 posted on 06/28/2005 1:43:17 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (The sky is falling and the sea is rising! Run!)
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To: nickcarraway

Mankinds arrogance is a wonder to behold. What makes folks think that we can change the weather?? Weather happens, climates change. All this happens inspite of global warming, cooling, or whatever. One big volcano exploding somewhere on the planet can alter the weather for years. WEATHER HAPPENS!!!!! I'm sooooo tired of these foolish chicken little's. CNN had a propaganda piece on the "reality" of global warming. GRRRRRRR, RUBISH!!!


14 posted on 06/28/2005 1:47:09 PM PDT by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: randog

How many papers would that sell?


15 posted on 06/28/2005 1:57:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway
Repeat after me:

Man-made Global WarmingTM is a MYTH!
Man-made Global WarmingTM is a MYTH!
Man-made Global WarmingTM is a MYTH!


16 posted on 06/28/2005 1:58:25 PM PDT by TChris ("You tweachewous miscweant!" -- Elmer Fudd)
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Adjustments are being made at the South Pole, no problems man:

MU research finds Antarctic ice getting thicker

17 posted on 06/28/2005 2:15:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TChris; jpl; Vercingetorix_Gaul; Mr. Jeeves

See link at post #17.


18 posted on 06/28/2005 2:18:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TChris
I like this site:

Not by Fire but by Ice
THE NEXT ICE AGE - NOW!

19 posted on 06/28/2005 2:20:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jpl

In a doomsday scenario, the melting of ice sheets caused by global warming could mean that Scotland's major coastal conurbations, including Edinburgh, Dundee and Inverness, and smaller settlements such as Peterhead and Ullapool, could be wiped off the map completely


Where the heck will the Open Championship be played?


20 posted on 06/28/2005 2:21:11 PM PDT by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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