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Outrage Lingers Over Property Rights Ruling
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Posted on 06/28/2005 11:31:22 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: tumblindice
Also, you'll hear a lot about how the states should pass legislation protecting homeowners. . . won't work. All a grifting developer has to do is appeal, invoke Kelo (stare decisis) and the 14th amendment.

I agree this is a horrendous decision, but ED/private property protections are still an available option for States. From the majority opinion:

"We emphasize that nothing in our opinion precludes any State from placing further restrictions on its exercise of the takings power. Indeed, many States already impose "public use" requirements that are stricter than the federal baseline."

61 posted on 06/28/2005 12:49:58 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Happy2BMe

Congress!


62 posted on 06/28/2005 12:51:04 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Ken H

Not sure if they still use a "rational relationship to a legitimate state interest" test, but I can assure you that if `push comes to shove', and another developer complains that some stubborn homeowners are `standing in the way of progress', you will see a federal appeals court enforcing Kelo. That stuff you cited from the majority opinion was just window-dressing.
And that's why developers are ecstatic and so many middle-class Americans are unhappy with them.


63 posted on 06/28/2005 12:56:11 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Happy2BMe
IMPEACH THE BLACK ROBES...it's an impeachable offense when rulings are not according to the ORGANIC CONSTITUTION!!!!

It appears we've got at least 5 blk robes in the supreme court that should be IMPEACHED!!!!

64 posted on 06/28/2005 12:57:06 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Dashing Dasher
I think that this new law, new amendment thing is a waste of time.

What would the amendment say?

"This time we MEAN it."

No, throwing a few of them to the curb is a much better idea. I emailed Logan, and offered to invest $10k, as soon as he can produce a business plan.

65 posted on 06/28/2005 1:01:06 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: Smartass
Yes, Congress passed it but it was contrived and crafted by U-KNOW-WHO prior to Congress mulling over it.

Hint: The U.S.S.C. covers their own ar$e$.

66 posted on 06/28/2005 1:04:48 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: patton; Dashing Dasher
Did you read the threads I linked in here earlier? I think it is great that the developer is taking it right to Justice Souter!
67 posted on 06/28/2005 1:05:34 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I read both of them - the Developer is the guy I offered to invest with.


68 posted on 06/28/2005 1:09:40 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; patton

We're trying to get into the ground floor of a construction company dedicated to building hotels on each USSC Justices' Homesite. I mean - just the Fab Five.

Let the games begin.


69 posted on 06/28/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher ( What was the best thing before sliced bread?)
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To: patton

I hope it all works out and you make $$$millions from the deal.


70 posted on 06/28/2005 1:12:13 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Sad thing about impeachment is, if the shoes were reversed:

if it were the Dems in the majority in Congress and
it were the Republican nominated justices on the court that made this decision...

Is there any DOUBT what they'd do? Sad really. Our party has NO CLUE how to grab someone by the balls. They're really blowing it with this one.


71 posted on 06/28/2005 1:12:54 PM PDT by mosquitobite
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To: Dashing Dasher

I like revenge games. I think it is what they deserve.


72 posted on 06/28/2005 1:13:30 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I'm Russian. Revenge is part of our DNA.


73 posted on 06/28/2005 1:14:05 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher ( What was the best thing before sliced bread? - ICE CREAM)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Well, let the REVENGE begin!!


74 posted on 06/28/2005 1:15:33 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Both statutes are a joke. Anytime, any governmental body oversees themselves, they do exactly that...protect their A$$S. All complaints are first ruled on by the circuit chief judge. Next, it's ruled on en banc. None go anywhere, but into the trash. Basically, federal judges do WHATEVER they want, with IMPUNITY!
75 posted on 06/28/2005 1:20:21 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Political Junkie Too

If that's the case, then this decision flies in the face of Soldal vs. Cook County in which a unanimous USSC overturned lower courts stating that if the 4th Amendment protects property, that one's home is certainly property and therefore protected.

In Soldal, the complainant alleged that his 4th Amendment rights were violated when the Cook County Sheriff's Dept. aided his landlord in towing his trailer off of the lot without the necessary eviction order. (If I seem to know a good deal about this case, it's because the lovely Mrs. Flada is also Mr. Soldal's daughter.)


76 posted on 06/28/2005 1:21:15 PM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: Smartass
I was reading an article in the newspaper today about the dissent within the U.S.S.C.

There is a good deal of it - meaning these oligarchic rulers don't even trust themselves. They fight like brats at a Ritalin party.

Makes you feel good, don't it?

77 posted on 06/28/2005 1:26:46 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: flada
If you haven't by now, you should read Thomas' dissent.

-PJ

78 posted on 06/28/2005 1:29:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Ken H

more fun with federalism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/premption_of_state_and_local_laws_in_the_united_states
Sure, the preemption doctrine is limited to statutes.
The SCOTUS wouldn't provide that hopeful language in their opinion, then ride rough-shod over states rights by accepting an appeal, even though a state statute bore a rational relationship to a legitimate state interest: preventing developers from making tax-payers--granted, they pay less taxes than the new development would pay--homeless?
Would they?


79 posted on 06/28/2005 1:31:39 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Revelation 911

The media will try to sink or ignore this nascent movement. They thrive off of advertising money. RE developers are HUGE advertisers in newspapers and TV.


80 posted on 06/28/2005 1:48:45 PM PDT by oblomov
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