China and its generals

So much is going on in China I sometimes wonder where to start. I know that seems strange. Surely, you ask, if there is so much news, how can there be a problem? A shortage of stories? The problem is one of mood swings. Not mine, but China’s.

On the one hand I see before me a great future for what was once a great country before cultural sclerosis set in, followed by xenophobia and political and economic disintegration that brought humiliation, war and Japanese barbarism and the culmination of which was Maoist China, a totalitarian state whose gangster emperor concealed his murderous lust for power under the texts of Marx and Engels, surely the worst evils ever visited on any country. Now that death has rid us of the depraved paedophile, Mao, though, his shadow lingers and we are left to ask, some 30 years later, what now?

To travel through China is to visit different countries, such are the enormous differences in wealth and development among regions. Some are "dirt poor," with people living in hovels.

Then there is Guangdong whose rapid expansion and entrepreneurial flair inspires admiration while its seamier side generates revulsion among those who long for the security of Mao’s "iron rice bowl" which was never anything but a cruel myth. Sure there is corruption in Guangdong: there is the world's most prolific intellectual theft and counterfeiting, there’s porn and prostitution; there’s fraud and massive-scale embezzlement. The rule of law is largely unknown and contract law barely understood.

But who are Peking’s wannabe mandarins to look down on Guangdong? Give me Guangdong's seamy side of life any day to Peking’s phoney Puritanism. I’ll take the honesty of pimps, prostitutes, porn peddlers and scam merchants to any two-bit would-be warlord who calls himself a "general."

Guangdong’s dregs and its social flotsam have no pretensions; they know what they are and make no apologies for it. The free market did not create these social strata. It did not instil in them contempt for the law, for that is the only legacy left of Mao’s imperial lunacies. Despite their criminal activities Guangdong’s gangsters pose no danger to China. They do not want to goosestep; they do not want to invade other countries and they certainly do not want to be governed by grasping warlords. They just want to make money.

Lord Keynes once observed it was better for a man tyrannise over his bank account rather than his fellow man. This is why the pursuit of money, of wealth and material wellbeing is so necessary for China’s survival.

There are those in the military who clothe their own lust for power and influence in Chinese nationalism.

For him "patriotism was the last refuge of a scoundrel" not because he was not patriotic, far from it, but because he knew that for such men patriotism was nothing but a means to serve and/or a cloak under which to hide their own ambitions. I'm not suggesting that every Chinese general is of this ilk.

But more than enough of them are to pose a mortal danger to China and her neighbours.

To these men delusionally fantasized "military glory" is the only currency they know and understand. When they speak of China they really mean themselves, just as Napoleon did with France and Hitler with Germany. Theirs is the type of mentality that defines criticism as treason. And anything that may be represented as being "a danger" to China opens a window of opportunity for these thugs.

Should the economy be unable to quickly deal with a recession and the resulting unemployment it could create the kind of social tension that strengthened the hands of similar men in the 1920s and 1930s.

If the world could have managed sustained economic growth after WW I Japanese and German militarism would have withered on the vine of prosperity with stiff-necked jackbooted militarists increasingly marginalised, being seen as a remnant of a feudal and perhaps even less admirable age. But they would certainly have been seen as men out of their time.

Instead, the interwar years experienced the worst depression in history and this provided the breeding ground for the kind of nationalism that should be classified as a disease. Could this happen in China? Let’s hope not. What China needs is not more rockets, tanks, bombers and so on.

Dear G-K Forget any "race" "against" any one, any country and or any nation -- especially ours. It demeans you. And comparisons are odious at best.

And yet they are necessary lest we lose sight of where we stand and which direction we need to go. And a "race" is always very exciting if you look at it that way considering the fact that now we are up against competitors like China, Japan, Europe and of course the biggest and the toughest of them all.......the United States (the ultimate competitor). We are currently the underdogs but .......things can/should change.

And relax about "china," too and about India's position in the scheme of things relative to that mass-murdering crime-occracy's delusions of grandure -- and of sustainability.

Cant relax. Not now. China attracts $240 Billion USDs of foreign investments while we have only $40 Billion USDs of FDIs. They have around $200-300 Billion of trade with Japan, the US, and Europe and have a trade surplus against both Japan and the US. While our trade with US hovers around $20-30 Billion USDs. They maybe be "mass-murdering crime-occracy" but as they say "its the economy stupid!"

Let Peking's pack of psychopathologically-hesperophobic lying, looting, mass-murdering gangster bastards first offer up even a system of government accepted by and entrusted to the Chinese People [Something their much-vaunted (And essentially delusionally-fantasized) "five thousand years" of "civilization" hasn't yet produced!] before any Indian believes his Nation is in any way inferior to its mostly brutally-invaded, genocidally-colonized [2.5 million square miles of 3.7 million total] and murderously-enslaved neighbor.

I didnt say my country is any bit inferior (forget China it not even inferior to the US) just that our time is yet to come.......

And all said and done China's lack of democracy actually works to their advantage. They dont have to deal with a torpid, chaotic, inefficient and an unproductive democratic system. As for history......we have had our share of brutal history. Thanks to the Moslems and then the Brits.

AND you guys have better [Yummier!] grub!

Have you tried Indian regrub ?

<< they dont have to deal with a torpid, chaotic, inefficient and an unproductive "democratic system."

Nor does India.

And don't delude yourself any longer than is necessary. Your problems are all of your own choosing. Including and perhaps especially those left over from fifty years of the obscene bloody red-tape-bound criminal-looting-hiding-under-the-"Fabian-Socialist"-delusions of the Nehru family's gruesome-gangster gang.

<< As for history......we have had our share of brutal history. Thanks to the Moslems and then the Brits. >>

Horse pucky. The depraved-death-cultist moslems are bastards of the worst order. That part is true. And India's is to this day an incredibly violent society and country.

But the Brits' contributions to India [If one can just overlook that bit at the end when the cuckolded fickle faggot, Mountbatten, in the process standing by during the slaughter, by Indians, of three million Indians, surrendered all of India and all of its Peoples (And the sexual use of his "wife") to Nehru and his gang. The Indian gang, that is, that has pretty much ever since systemically raped and looted and pillaged India and every Indian] is hugely positive and beneficial and your nation's body of Judeo-Christian-Roman-English Law that is Britain's lasting gift to India is what sets India apart from and potentially if not yet actually head-and-shoulders ahead of such of its neighbors as, say, "china!"

Now I'm off down the road to [Singapore's] Little India and grab me a curry lunch!

Gunna commit Hurry Curry!

Blessings -- Brian

"The depraved-death-cultist moslems are bastards of the worst order. That part is true. And India's is to this day an incredibly violent society and country.
But the Brits' contributions to India ..........."

So you mean the Moslems are bastards but the Brits are good eh?
Har har gotcha!

" is hugely positive and beneficial and your nation's body of Judeo-Christian-Roman-English Law that is Britain's lasting gift to India is what sets India apart from and potentially if not yet actually head-and-shoulders ahead of such of its neighbors as, say, "china!"

Aww the same old drab of a comment! If our Legal system (and with that all the other institutions of a modern democracy) is a "Judeo-Christian-Roman-English" gift from Britain then how is it that the scores of other erstwhile British colonies in Asia and Africa (including our neighbour Pakistan and Bangladesh) dont have anything of the kind.

Well the fact is.......it was never a gift from Britain. They never gave it to us while they ruled. We built it ourselves (albeit under Western influence), nurtured it and preserved it till date. Nobody can give "democracy" and "a fair judicial system" as a gift to anybody.

And talking about the British Raj in almost every respect it rivalled the worst of the Chinese Communist Rule. If the Chinese had Tianmen, the Brits had their Jalianwala Baugh. If Red China had their cultural revolution, the Brits had their infamous "man-made" Bengal famine that killed millions. But I will concede that they gave us their education system (although be it only to produce more clerks and thereby created the burosclerosis that we are suffering today) and they built the roads, bridges and the railways (be it only to exploit India's rescources more efficiently). That apart I dont see much advantages of being under British slavery that I should ask for it again (in the worst case even a Red China style Communist government would be more preferable to the British Raj). Good riddance.

As for Mountbatten, he wasnt responsible for what was already and essentially a "British designed" partition and creation of an artificial construct called "Pakistan". It was the British (who were in league with the Muslim League) who orchestrated the slaughter which spiralled out of hand and took shape of a monsterous religious genocide (and my own folks suddenly found themselves right in the middle of it in Eastern Pakistan in 1947, about the time when my grandfather and his family came over to India as refugees with only their clothes on). It was the GB which "systemically raped and looted and pillaged India and every Indian" for a couple of centuries and gave us a "parting gift" before they left. And then of course the British historians were always there rewrite history and to indoctrinate people like you.

But you are right about the fact that our current problems are of our own choosing. And its not just the Nehru's and (Gandhi's) who are responsible but our entire political system. I dont think any other political party sans (Nehru's and Gandhi's) would be any different. Its a different matter that you dont like them (Nehru's and Gandhi's) because they were always anti-US, but had it not been for the Nehru's and (Gandhi's) India would have long turned into another Pakistan. And good or bad they were elected by the Indian masses just as much as I and a majority of other Indians supported the current members of the Nehru-Gandhi family........[ the Catholic women and pure 101% Indian (Sonia Gandhi)] in the most recent election.

So you are in Serangoon now? Have you been to Taman Jurong? Thats where I was born and did my schooling in Bukit Batok......been I long time since I left Singapore for India (sigh).

And try the Indian regrub. (Do you know what it is?)

<< So you mean the Moslems are bastards but the Brits are good eh? >>

Without a doubt! [Although, as no doubt have you, I have many individual fine friends and aquaintances of each persuasion]

<< .... is hugely positive and beneficial and your nation's body of Judeo-Christian-Roman-English Law that is Britain's lasting gift to India is what sets India apart from and potentially if not yet actually head-and-shoulders ahead of such of its neighbors as, say, "china!"

.... If our Legal system (and with that all the other institutions of a modern democracy) is a "Judeo-Christian-Roman-English" gift from Britain then how is it that the scores of other erstwhile British colonies in Asia and Africa (including our neighbour Pakistan and Bangladesh) dont have anything of the kind. >>

They had. [As had, say, Burma/myanmar, which has degenerated even further than has any of Britain's former Asian colonies]

And they corrupted and continue to corrupt the Rule of Law with which you were all gifted even worse than has India -- and eventually completely subjugated it to their mad mullahs and to the altogether inferior agency of their false Mecca-based moon rock "god." >>

<< Well the fact is.......it was never a gift from Britain. They never gave it to us while they [Governed]. We built it ourselves (albeit under Western influence), nurtured it and preserved it till date. Nobody can give "democracy" and "a fair judicial system" as a gift to anybody. >>

You are smarter than that, Dear G-K, and know your major influence since the British withdrew has been from the profoundly corrupt practitioners of their very own and even more abjectly-corrupted version of Fabian socialism, the Nehru/Gandi Gang and from that gang's even-more-totally-criminal evil-empire axis monsterous mates in Moscow.

<< And talking about the British ... I will concede that they gave us their education system ... and they built the roads, bridges and the railways ... That apart I dont see much advantages of being under "British slavery" that I should ask for it again. [In the worst case even a Red China style "ommunist" government would be more preferable to the British Raj] Good riddance. >>

Your pathological hesperophobia is showing and its accompanying psychoses have, in this area, completely destroyed your ability to think, to rationalize and to reason. To find a moral equivelence between the Brits' Indian Governance and the invading, conquering, enslaving, raping, looting, plundering, mass-murdering of Human History's most-depraved, ever and most-prolific, ever, mass murderers is simply insane.

And to wish such mass-murdering madness as a preference upon your own country and countrymen is simply psychotic!

<< As for Mountbatten, he wasnt responsible for what was already and essentially a "British designed" partition and creation of an artificial construct called "Pakistan". >>

You reckon?

Don't know much about the wicked wily Nehru, do you!

And God alone knows what evil influences have indoctrinated you with your prejudices. [Although my money's on the wicked wily Nehru gang's wicked wily "government" indoctrination industry. [AKA its "schools," "colleges" and "univerities."]

<< But you are right about the fact that our current problems are of our own choosing. And its not just the Nehrus and Gandhis who are responsible but our entire political system. I dont think any other political party sans Nehrus and Gandhis would be any different. Its a different matter that you dont like them .... because they were always anti-US ... >>

Rubbish. I don't like that bloody gang because it is and always has been anti-India and anti-Indian.

That obscene gang stands for only itself and its own enrichment and, except to get its hand into his pocket, has never given a tuppenny damn for any Indian beyond its immediate circles of grovelling, grasping, gouging, cronies.

[And you forget that, born a British "subject" -- and with no love lost for those snivelling Euro-peon Neo-Soviet's offshore satellite-statists [Who, by the way, can't play either cricket (Talking about which, how'd you guys do against the Pakis the other week?) OR rugby!] -- I came to be afforded the great privilege of becoming an American only after realizing the grandest of my life's dreams and aims, aspirations and ambitions!]

<< So you are in Serangoon now? Have you been to Taman Jurong? Thats where I was born and did my schooling in Bukit Batok......been I long time since I left Singapore for India. (Sigh) >>

I was in Serangoon then and am right now -- and know Tanon Jurong well enough. My house is in Serangoon and I headed up Serangoon Road to Little India for my lunch yesterday and out again last evening for a mutton murtabak for my dinner! [Double Yum!] For, as I once gloated to my Vancouver Sikh restaurant-owner friend, "George," as he commented on my I entering his establishment for my third meal there of that day and perhaps my tenth of the week, "I can eat curry morning noon and night!"

[Fancy that, answered George. "In all the world, only you -- and one and a quarter million 'real Indians!'"]

<< And try the Indian regrub. (Do you know what it is?)>>

You tell me.

Blessings -- Brian

[Although, as no doubt have you, I have many individual fine friends and aquaintances of each persuasion]

I have meet a few British people here in Pune (who incidentally happen to be very critical of their government's involvement in Iraq, however thats another matter) who are very nice people.

I happen to know a few Brits (if I should call them so) who are my distant relatives living in the UK and of them some are second generation British Indians. Some of them speak very good Bengali and some of them prefer not to. Curiously the Indians come in only two varities, those who consider themselves Indian to the core and those who consider themselves British and loath Indian ways.

They had. [As had, say, Burma/myanmar, which has degenerated even further than has any of Britain's former Asian colonies]

And they corrupted and continue to corrupt the Rule of Law with which you were all gifted even worse than has India -- and eventually completely subjugated it to their mad mullahs and to the altogether inferior agency of their false Mecca-based moon rock "god."

Thats where you go wrong. Firstly the British masters never practised the "Rule of Law" (over which they pride themselves so much) in the colonies they held. Secondly its not enough just getting it from their British masters. It something you have to built, preserve, apply, practise and respect it yourself. We did all those to an extent and regardless of whatever you Americans have to say..........the fact is, it happened only because of Nehru and the Congress. What people here dont see is that had it not been for Nehru and the Congress government following independence, it would have hardly taken a matter of time for India to slip into either dictatorship or Communism. The pathological hatred for Nehru that most Americans here harbour is because Nehru in a way disliked the Americans (and their overt and brazen Capitalism). Although on that issue I have my own disagreements with Nehruvian policies .......but credit should go where its due.

You are smarter than that, Dear G-K, and know your major influence since the British withdrew has been from the profoundly corrupt practitioners of their very own and even more abjectly-corrupted version of Fabian socialism, the Nehru/Gandi Gang and from that gang's even-more-totally-criminal evil-empire axis monsterous mates in Moscow.

I dont deny the existance of rampant corruption in our system. My point was, corruption is (or has become) inherent in our system even outside the circle of Nehru/Gandhi gang but it is definitely not because of our strategic closeness to Moscow. Thats pure BS. Had we drawn even one percent of influence from our erstwhile commie mates in Kremlin, I would have been (by now) working in some labour camp and not been FReeping from my office here and critisizing the socialism and corruption in my country.

Your pathological hesperophobia is showing and its accompanying psychoses have, in this area, completely destroyed your ability to think, to rationalize and to reason. To find a moral equivelence between the Brits' Indian Governance and the invading, conquering, enslaving, raping, looting, plundering, mass-murdering of Human History's most-depraved, ever and most-prolific, ever, mass murderers is simply insane.

Those stale and fagged out adjectives of your "invading, conquering, enslaving, raping, looting, plundering, mass-murdering of Human History's most-depraved, ever and most-prolific, ever, mass murderers " can as much apply to the British rule of India. Only you (being an apologist for the evil-imperial Raj) would choose to call it a "Governance ", but the couple of centuries of inhuman slavery that Indians had to reel under was anything but "Governance ". And indoctrinated as you are by the lies of BBC and the ilk of the British Raj revisionists, get back to me if you find a logical or rational way of proving it to me that Jalianwala baug was any better than Tianmen or the Bengal famines were any better than the Cultural revolution.

And to wish such mass-murdering madness as a preference upon your own country and countrymen is simply psychotic!

I would prefer the Raj Imperialism as much as Red Communism means that I prefer neither. Kapish?

You reckon?

Don't know much about the wicked wily Nehru, do you!

I suppose you do. Tell me about it.

And God alone knows what evil influences have indoctrinated you with your prejudices. [Although my money's on the wicked wily Nehru gang's wicked wily "government" indoctrination industry. [AKA its "schools," "colleges" and "univerities."]

Indoctinated by the heatheness of reason and heresy of logic. Probably you should try it a little.

Rubbish. I don't like that bloody gang because it is and always has been anti-India and anti-Indian.

That obscene gang stands for only itself and its own enrichment and, except to get its hand into his pocket, has never given a tuppenny damn for any Indian beyond its immediate circles of grovelling, grasping, gouging, cronies.

I dont suppose Indians would have voted for them if they had been anti-Indian. However I accept your criticism but would like to add here that the other alternative "gangs" wouldnt have been any better than this one. The only reason why Nehru's gang is your special target is because they are also anti-American in addition to all those things you just mentioned.

[And you forget that, born a British "subject" -- and with no love lost for those snivelling Euro-peon Neo-Soviet's offshore satellite-statists [Who, by the way, can't play either cricket (Talking about which, how'd you guys do against the Pakis the other week?) OR rugby!] -- I came to be afforded the great privilege of becoming an American only after realizing the grandest of my life's dreams and aims, aspirations and ambitions!]

I am not sure there was any India-Pak cricket going on the other week.

For, as I once gloated to my Vancouver Sikh restaurant-owner friend, "George," as he commented on my I entering his establishment for my third meal there of that day and perhaps my tenth of the week, "I can eat curry morning noon and night!"

[Fancy that, answered George. "In all the world, only you -- and one and a quarter million 'real Indians!'"]

It all depen on which curry you had. For I (a nominal curry eater by Indian standards) had the privilage of being administered "the mutton kolhapuri" by one of my Maharashtrian host. Very few on this planet can stand the heat of "the mutton kolhapuri" for more than once........first while you are eating it and second..... while you are ejecting it in the toilet.

Oh and about the "regrub". Just spell it in the reverse (What did you think it was :-) ). Here the McDonald serves a highly Indianised version called the Chicken/Mutton Kebab Tikka MacMaharajah (or some such funky name)........but I prefer the local "vada pav".

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