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Another publik skool teacher that doesn't understand that a student can write about God in the classroom.
1 posted on 06/28/2005 7:23:53 AM PDT by zlala
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To: zlala

Dear perfesser, what is religion without God?


2 posted on 06/28/2005 7:24:36 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: zlala

in buddha we trust

be ok on the democrat plantation!


3 posted on 06/28/2005 7:24:45 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to steal your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: zlala
I don't loose my First Amendment rights

The editor of this paper should be smacked around.

4 posted on 06/28/2005 7:24:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; TheBigB; MeekOneGOP

Maybe we should have helped out more with the turn page paper & diorama.


5 posted on 06/28/2005 7:25:34 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America)
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To: zlala

The illiterati continue to push freedome FROM religion.

This extraction of God from public life is just as much a religion (cult?) as any other belief.


6 posted on 06/28/2005 7:26:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: zlala

Bethany Hauf was given an "F" by this evil monster, but she earned an "A+" in her ultimate report card.


8 posted on 06/28/2005 7:28:04 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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"He said it would offend others in class," Hauf, a 34-year-old mother of four, said. "I didn't realize God was taboo."

The people who want to remove the flag and God from American public life always use that "others might be offended" weasel excuse. They never have the guts to say that THEY are offended.

10 posted on 06/28/2005 7:28:44 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: zlala

God knows who instructor Michael Shefchik is, and where he lives.

big mistake!


11 posted on 06/28/2005 7:29:36 AM PDT by peacebaby (We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.)
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How about if I write about bustin a #@$% in my ())^90 A$$ and shootin' my 9 at a drive by?


12 posted on 06/28/2005 7:29:58 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Democrats, Socialists........................ Is there really a difference?)
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To: zlala
she argued it would be impossible to write about the affect of Christianity on the development of the United States without using the word God.

Unfortunately common sense does not usually take hold with these weirdo teachers...
13 posted on 06/28/2005 7:30:55 AM PDT by PaulaB
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11th Comandment:
Thou Shalt Squall Like A Baby When Exposed To The Name Of Thy Creator And Judge"
16 posted on 06/28/2005 7:33:07 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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Hauf's teacher approved her term paper topic — Religion and its Place within the Government — on one condition: Don't use the word God. Instead of complying with VVCC adjunct instructor Michael Shefchik's condition Hauf wrote a 10-page report for her English 101 class entitled "In God We Trust."

"He said it would offend others in class,"

Teacher, where is this right not to be offended? Where did it come from? And how does it override the right of your student? Must she engage in self cenmsorship so not to offend? And why doesnt it bother you that you have offended the other half of the population?

17 posted on 06/28/2005 7:33:47 AM PDT by lowbridge
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OK, so a student did something *other* than what she said she was going to do, and got a failing grade for her efforts. This is news?

Would it have been ok if I'd turned in a sci-fi story instead of a term paper on the Civil War?


18 posted on 06/28/2005 7:34:14 AM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: zlala

How would this offend anyone in class? When we wrote papers in my college everyone did their thing, turned it in. No one saw others' papers.


19 posted on 06/28/2005 7:34:23 AM PDT by plain talk
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Shefchik, a self-described atheist

Shefchik told Hauf that among the reasons for the low grade was that references to God could be offensive.


20 posted on 06/28/2005 7:34:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: zlala

Since this is a public, community college, the teacher's actions are illegal.

It is well-known that a student has the right to discuss religion in papers without censorship.

Of course, the student has to follow the course guidelines, but this teacher's demand that she censor her word choice is so blatantly illegal it is not even debatable.

Here is the adjunct instructor's address: shefchikm@vvc.edu


22 posted on 06/28/2005 7:35:22 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: zlala

This whole thing sounds very odd. I can't understand the logic of such a requirement. If her paper essentially took a proselytizing tone (i.e. "God must have a place in government because there is only one God and he is the true God of all, regardless of what other religions say, and that attitude should be required in government") then I can see why the paper might have been graded with an F.

But simply making objective use of the word "God"? I can't understand any objection that would be reasonable.


24 posted on 06/28/2005 7:36:29 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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community college adjunct instructor

LOL! IQ: 88. Education: BA in Education from University of Massachusetts, Eastern Montana State, or other leading light of liberal illiteracy. Politics: thinks Ted Kennedy is a conservative. Career prospects: adjunct instructor at community college. Marital Status: Single, has lots of socks. Religion: "That's for the stupid, unwashed masses." Military experience: Helped burn ROTC building in 1972.

26 posted on 06/28/2005 7:36:49 AM PDT by pabianice
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where is her creativity? this was a writing class wasn't it?


Almighty, Supreme Being, Creater, Father, Holy One, Deity, ...

many of our founding fathers used words other than "God", jewish people hyphenate it out of reverence (G-d).

i'm not disagreeing that the professer is off his rocker but that is a given going into college today. she could have met the technical requirement and kept the spirit of what she wanted to say.

i'll admit not knowing the whole story though, maybe she only used the word God in quotes from sources -- if that is the case then she should probably fight it.


28 posted on 06/28/2005 7:37:19 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: zlala

An "adjunct instructor" in a community college is at the bottom of the feeding chain. However, this guy has to reach up to touch bottom.


32 posted on 06/28/2005 7:38:27 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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