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1 posted on 06/27/2005 8:47:58 AM PDT by Irontank
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Have I mentioned I love Clarence Thomas? Not in a gay way, mind you, but this man is probably the most true patriot and by far smartest guy on the court...followed by Scalia and Rhenquist some distance behind...


2 posted on 06/27/2005 8:49:39 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Irontank

Good stuff.. can't wait to read Thomas' dissent. I've said here previously (many times) that Thomas is the only person for Chief, he's the best justice we have. (Sorry Scalia fans.. I'm a Thomas man).


3 posted on 06/27/2005 8:50:04 AM PDT by soundandvision
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What they are saying is welcome to government rule. America is not America. How dare these jerks rule us and for us.


4 posted on 06/27/2005 8:51:25 AM PDT by freekitty
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5 posted on 06/27/2005 8:52:29 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Irontank; lugsoul; Publius Valerius

FWIW re. 14th


6 posted on 06/27/2005 8:56:40 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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It should be noted that virtually all legal experts now agree to the concept that the Fourteenth Amendment forbids the states from violating the Bill of Rights. It should also be considered that if this were not the case, an Amendment making this explicit would pass easily.

-Eric

7 posted on 06/27/2005 8:57:56 AM PDT by E Rocc (If God is watching us, we can at least try to be entertaining)
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To: Irontank

The only freedom alive and well in America is pervert freedom.


8 posted on 06/27/2005 8:58:00 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Irontank
If, in 1876, the 14th Amendment had not made the Establishment Clause applicable to the states (according the the very congressman who passed the 14th Amendment), how did the Supreme Court magically "interpret" it to do so 75 years later?

If Congress and the state has in some way become entangled, then the First Amendment should apply.

For example, public schools do receive federal funding. Congress/the fed gov't has inserted itself into public schools.

The question is: In what way is Congress/the federal gov't involved in state courthouses? That's not a rhetorical question, just a question.

10 posted on 06/27/2005 8:59:25 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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To: Irontank

I love Clarence Thomas. He obviously understands the Constitution better than the rest.


11 posted on 06/27/2005 9:01:10 AM PDT by mlc9852
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None of which is the real issue here.

We all know that there's been a wave of anti-semitism working its way through the professional leftwing both here and in Europe.

It shouldn't surprise anyone at all that the Supreme Court, dominated by leftwing extremists, should now rule that the Law of Moses, the very core of classical Judaism, should be relegated to the courthouse lawn, and prohibited entry into the court.

The next ruling from this same court might well ban the Jews themselves from entering the courts.

This is the exact same pattern formal, government enforced anti-semitism took in Germany in the 1930s.

13 posted on 06/27/2005 9:02:18 AM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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They are all Statists.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 9:03:29 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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Humm....
OK, as I understand it, an individual posting something on the wall of a court room makes it a law that has been passed by the Congress. When was THAT amendment passed? Oh, wait a minute, maybe it has been posted on a wall somewhere in a court room. That makes the legislative job much cheaper, Now we can send home all the Senators and Representatives. The Oligarchy rules, Our beloved Republic is dead.

GE
16 posted on 06/27/2005 9:03:58 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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I've been going about this all wrong...

I was one of those "protect the sanctity of the union" support the "strict constructionists" type of great unwashed sorts.

Maybe I should give in to the siren song and go over to the dark side.

My first quest as a "constitution as a living document" type of "thinker" will be to abolish the Supreme Court as an anachronism........


(Gee, I'm "feeeeeeling" better already!)
18 posted on 06/27/2005 9:05:47 AM PDT by rockrr (Gregorovych Nyet!)
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FABULOUS research! This debate was recently had on this website, and I wish I had had this nugget back then. Another reason to wonder if the 14th really has anything to do with the BOR -- nowhere in the 14th amend is the BOR even mentioned.


19 posted on 06/27/2005 9:07:00 AM PDT by RayStacy
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If the 14th amendment makes the 1st apply to State law (not addressing the issue of a simple POSTING being the equivalent of a law being passed), then why does it not make the 5th apply to the states?
Connecticut and Pennsylvania have no Grand jury and Wisconsin, while retaining its grand jury statute, has not actually convened a grand jury in at least 25 years.

GE
22 posted on 06/27/2005 9:11:54 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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One need only look at the version of the First Amendment that James Madison originally drafted to get a better understanding of what it means: "The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext, infringed." Nobody's calling for a theocracy, but our government shouldn't be stripped of religion either.
27 posted on 06/27/2005 9:28:20 AM PDT by RedTail
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