I hope and pray Billy Graham's wonderful son Franklin and his lovely daughter Anne call him up and say: "Dad, what were you thinking?"
Too bad we didn't get this on tape. It's really hard to believe without it.
First your minister, now Billy Graham. Added on top of the existing political/judicial situation, it's shaping up to be a crappy summer.
This is just disgusting, simply disgusting.
Quip in jest or not, it amounts to TWO heresies in one sentence. Suggesting that Bill Clinton becoming an evangelist is bad enough, but encouraging support for Hillary as president is complete insanity. Graham made a serious mistake in this statement, and his ministry will suffer as a result. He should have just said nothing, but now he has alienated millions of former supporters. What is odd is that many of us are already aware that Graham has taken a universalist "One World Church" belief in recent years, and had already lost many of us.
Oh, Please....how did the Clinton's exploit Graham? Graham is obviously a bit of a dolt...or a forgive and forget type...nothing to do with his age either. He "allowed" the Clintons on stage with him.
Graham is just another huckster
With the Klinton's in whatever venue they appear at its always about THEM, isn't it?
It'll be interesting to see what Sean Hannity has to say, since he spent several days proclaiming what a great man Billy Graham is. Wonder if he'll be able to get his foot out of his mouth. It'll be interesting, too, to see if Franklin Graham has any comments. He seems a bit more conservative than his Dad.
I saw Graham the other day talking to and praising Paul Crouch and his mega-haired wife, and that was almost as bad as watching him with Clinton. BG is clearly well past his prime, and probably should have hung up the Bible a few years ago.
Bill and Hillary remind me of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11. Read it for yourself. But just to tease your curiosity I present verse 10 ...
"Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband."
I was physically there. I was appalled that the all the Demoncrats were there as well as Bloomberg, who is a Jewish RHINO getting face time but
"after Graham yielded the stage to Bill Clinton and suggested his wife Hillary should be president. "
THIS was a JOKE. People laughed. Too much is being made of this.
BG was a confident to BOTH sides of the political line. That means Republicans and Demoncrats. So to see him with the Clintons wasn't so shocking when you think about it. Schummer, the SENIOR Senator was also given some face time. NYC is a Demoncrat city so when one calms down it makes sense.
Forgiveness is tricky business
The Reverend Billy Graham made an appearance on the Today show a couple of weeks ago. Possibly, he scandalized more than a few of the people he’s attracted over the many decades he has been preaching.
He said he forgives President Clinton. That’s because, "I know the frailty of human nature . . . . He has such a tremendous personality that I think the ladies just go wild over him." Mr. Graham finished this comment with a chuckle.
One guy who wasn’t chuckling was former drug czar and education secretary Bill Bennett. He objected to the reverend’s readiness to forgive with a "cheap grace."
Asked Bennett: "Billy Graham forgives him for what? What has the president admitted to doing? Billy Graham forgives him for something the president has denied in his deposition he has ever done."
That’s certainly true. Bill Clinton says no about Monica and no about Kathleen and no about Paula and no about Dolly and no about every other woman he’s been asked about. Well, except for Gennifer and maybe we shouldn’t even count that because, after all, he did say no about her for years.
To my knowledge the president hasn’t accepted responsibility for real estate scams or travel office firings or FBI files or anything else. So I wonder if Billy Graham’s forgiveness covers everything or only the sins caused by that tremendous personality that makes the ladies just go wild.
Bennett went on to point out that forgiveness usually comes after acknowledgement of one’s sins and repentance. I’m not too familiar with Protestantism, but I think Protestants believe that only God can forgive sins.
The Catholic Church, of course, has the sacrament of penance and reconciliation in which a priest may absolve penitents from their sins. Except in emergencies, this usually requires a confession of the sins.
Bennett’s bewilderment (if I may use a word the president’s spin-doctors appear to have a monopoly on) is understandable. What the heck was Billy Graham doing? There’s no admission of wrongdoing, so there’s nothing to forgive. Even if there were, it’s up to God to do the forgiving. Unless Mr. Clinton converts to Catholicism and I doubt the Pope’s praying for that.
All the Reverend Graham’s done is cause confusion and provide some wandering husbands with a ready-made excuse. Yes, dear, it’s just like Billy Graham says about how frail we human beings are. And I do have this tremendous personality that makes the ladies go wild.
If Mr. Graham is intent on forgiving a president he should do it for one who’s personally wronged him. Harry S. Truman will do. He wasn’t known for his tactfulness and one day he really unloaded on the subject of – Billy Graham!
"But now we’ve got this one evangelist, this Billy Graham, and he’s gone off the beam. He’s . . . .well, I hadn’t ought to say this, but he’s one of those counterfeits I was telling you about. He claims he’s a friend of all the Presidents, but he was never a friend of mine when I was President. I just don’t go for people like that. All he’s interested in is getting his name in the paper."
That’s pretty harsh. But it’s a transgression Billy Graham can actually forgive.
Whenever you get into a discussion of morality and sins and such you take the risk of being accused of trying to be holier-than-thou. We’re all sinners – some of us much worse than others - and we all need forgiveness: the forgiveness of those we’ve hurt and the forgiveness of a loving God.
That must ultimately come from a Higher Authority. Forgiveness by Mr. Graham for unacknowledged sins may help in the polls, but that’s about it.
what may be the legendary preacher's last crusade
If only he had the power to make them permanently go away with him. This is the classic example of brazen-ness by the Clintons. Billy Jeff was so insecure up there, he had to pretend to hold his (alleged and for show only)spouses hand. Ahhhhhh, I see the Clinton handlers are taking that new Anti-Hillary book to heart; "Hillary, you're going to be sitting up on the stage with Billy Graham, In NEW YORK, and you're going to let Bill touch your hand in Public". Can't you just imagine how this whole scene transpired??? Nothing is below contempt for these 2 lowlifes. LMAO!
This comes on the heels of a revelation about Richard Nixon's turning down an offered endorsement by Billy Graham in the 1960 election.
The story came from Monica Crowley in her Saturday morning progam on WABC radio.
Crowley, who was a sort of protege/amanuensis to Nixon in his last years, said that Nixon told her that he'd advised Graham not to announce a public endorsement.
Nixon urged Graham to stay neutral and apolitical because he feared a political endorsement would harm Graham's credibility.
Obviously no such scruples from The Slick One and Her Heinous.
I hope and pray Billy Graham's wonderful son Franklin and his lovely daughter Anne call him up and say: "Dad, what were you thinking?"
I missed the Crusade on TV (I've been sort of avoiding the tube lately), so this is the first I've heard of it.
Now showing a little class in such a situation, as Bush has done with der Schlichmiester, would certainly be appropriate - but stumping for Hitlarry is really beyond the pale; I would never have believed he'd do anything like that for a known consistant proponent of the secular leftist and prenatal infanticide agenda.
I'm sadly disapointed, to say the least.
Alas; senile dementia may at last be setting in with the old Evangelist.
Did he give the good old "Altar Call" one more time?
Did "Bev" Shea sing "Just As I Am"?
Did people come forward for Jesus... or Hillary?
Oh; one more thing;
Did the busses have to wait... again?
(Did they have Kerry stickers on the rear bumpers?)
It is truly amazing what institutions and movements the Marxists are capable of infiltrating and commandeering, isn't it?
God save America!
I knew there was more than one reason I've always ignored Graham.
Run or Ruin?
Bummer.
You are now long-past credibility and usefulness. Retire, leave the public spotlight, go far back up into the hills, And Stay Away.
Ass-kissing-up to the clintons was a bad move and will dog you the rest of your days - don't try explaining it, don't try apologizing for it.
March 1, 1998:
NAE PRESIDENT ARGUE RESIGNS - Assembly of God minister Dr. Don Argue has unexpectedly resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals, effective April 15 (2/9 Chr. Today). He becomes president of Northwest College (AOG) in Kirkland, Wash. He had tried to revitalize NAE membership, calling it "too old, too white, and too male." He made strides in racial reconciliation and was a bridge-builder to charismatics and liberals. The NAE should actually be called the NAEC (Nat'l Assoc. of Evangelicals & Charismatics), given the growing preponderance of charismatics in its constituency. And, for the first time since its creation in 1942, the NAE's top leader (Argue, and a Muslim leader) addressed the general assembly of the liberal National Council of Churches (2/1/97 CC). NCC general secretary Joan Brown Campbell said regular meetings with Argue and other meetings with him involving the chairman of the Roman Catholic bishops' ecumenical committee show that increased cooperation between the NAE and NCC is occurring. She said this cooperation is being accepted by the NAE board and not by Argue alone, since he spoke at the NCC in 1996 with the NAE board's approval (Jan-Feb Foundation). The NAE (and Promise Keepers, and other new-evangelicals) are building bridges (ecumenism) into the enemy's camp instead of building walls (separation) to protect the sheep from ravenous wolves in sheep's garb.