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Proof that Rove was Right
various FR links & stories | 06-27-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 06/27/2005 6:05:39 AM PDT by backhoe

To properly frame this issue, kindly view this file first- allow it time to load, it is well worth it:
 
 http://www.gunstuff.com/america-attacked.html
 
...and in the words of my old friend from long-lost boards, ALOHA RONNIE-- Never Forget...
 
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 "proof that Rove was Right"
 More "Rove is Right" News
 

There are several posted in the thread, if someone would dig through the posts on this long thread:

Democrats Demand Retraction From Rove

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1428964/posts

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431137/posts

7 posted on 06/26/2005 7:01:54 PM EDT by FairOpinion
 
 What Liberals Were Saying After 9/11 (Smart man that Karl Rove is!)
 
 CODE PINK LEADER GIVES SUPPORT TO TERRORISTS IN IRAQ
 
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Culling links & synopsises from the above:
 
 APOLOGY? - (WHAM! - fabulous retort to Dems' "demand" for "apology" from Karl Rove!!) -- Thanks for posting this most excellent rant. I have saved it to my keeper file.
 
 
What Liberals Were Saying After 9/11 (Smart man that Karl Rove is!)
 
 Rove: Dems Didn't Get 9/11 Consequences
 
 Nets Skipped Or Barely Touched Durbin & Clinton, Now Jump On Rove (Liberal MSM Bias Exposed Again-- (Excerpt) Read more at mrc.org ...
 
 Rove vs. Durbin: A False Parallel, Dems Giving Durbin A Pass-(proof, and more proof; Rove is right!)
 
  Rapid Deployment: New York City Peace Movement Hits the Streets
 
 http://www.webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=darrj&date=050626 -- He Went Way to Easy on Them.
 
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/980200/posts -- 9/11 and the “Anti-War” Left
 
 ROVE RILES DEMS: KNOCKING 9/11 'WIMPS'
 
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429085/posts -- White House Defends Rove 9/11 Remarks After Dems Demand Apology
 "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged." ---- Abraham Lincoln
 
 FROM THE BLEACHERS BLOG
 
 http://defiantzero.blogspot.com/ ( Warning- rough language )
 
 http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1430 -- Democrats Unlearn 9/11
 
 http://slate.msn.com/id/116422/ -- Don't blame Third World poverty for Sept. 11.
 
 Post-September 11 anti-war movement --
 http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Post_September-11-anti_war-movement
 
 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550464,00.html)
 
 (http://www.zmag.org/prashadcalam.htm)
 
 (http://www.zmag.org/chomnote.htm)
 
 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/29/ret.antiwar.protests/
 
 They are doing the enemy's bidding by working to dry up recruiting. In fact the Ruckus Society is holding an anti-recruitment training camp this summer.
 
 Dem Rove Apology Demand Is A Terrible Strategic Blunder
 
 Transcript of Karl Rove's speech to the New York Conservative Party


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 Karl Rove Should Apologize. He Went Way to Easy on Them

81 posted on 08/22/2005 3:28:32 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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 A Lynch Mob in Search of a Scandal -- in the final analysis, even if Rove did everything the most rabid Democratic rival accused him of doing in the 'Plame Affair' was true, it still didn't break the law -- something already understood before the investigation was launched.

82 posted on 10/15/2005 1:06:54 PM PDT by backhoe
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Video one is awesome, I like to see it every month or so. Just to keep that day fresh in my mind as the left tries to forget it ever happened. Thanks for the link.
83 posted on 10/15/2005 1:21:05 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Video one is awesome, I like to see it every month or so. Just to keep that day fresh in my mind as the left tries to forget it ever happened. Thanks for the link.

Thank you for looking. So long as I draw breath, I will not forget, or forgive.

84 posted on 10/15/2005 1:22:31 PM PDT by backhoe
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 Special Report: Judith Miller Exonerates Bush Officials
 

85 posted on 10/17/2005 5:14:20 AM PDT by backhoe
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http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php

The Gray Lady and Miss Run Amok

Howard Kurtz’s piece for today’s Washington Post on Judith Miller and Pflamegate is a must-read, as the left’s latest bogus scandal expires with a whimper: Reporter, Times Are Criticized for Missteps. (Hat tip: zombie.)  link: 238 comments

 The left's wet dream consists of a re-enactment of Vietnam followed by a re-enactment of Watergate.   Plame Affair Incidents

You know the Plame story has been Simmering since July 2003!

When I first heard about it, I was sceptical that it was anything more than partisan mud-slinging.

Now it has been debunked in so many ways, so many times, by so many people, but the beat just goes on and on and on...

Facts be damned this story just won't DIE!

 
 
 

86 posted on 10/17/2005 5:07:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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 [New York] Times reporter [Judith Miller] comes under fire
 
 Journalism community turns on Times, Miller
 

87 posted on 10/18/2005 12:44:49 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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There's something big coming in this city (Chris Matthews)
 
 Illiberal Prosecution: Why Democrats should take no comfort in the Plame case.

88 posted on 10/19/2005 4:53:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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Chris Matthews: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby Montage. This must be a record of some type.
89 posted on 10/21/2005 11:14:17 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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FYI..Maureen Dowd guts, fillets, chews up and spits out Judith Miller. War in the newsroom? You bet -- In other words, it's now "The Pinch and Judy Show"... a to-the-death drama unfolding against a backdrop of Big Apple journalistic intrigue, Washington D.C. vicious politics, and the world of shadowy, slimy, manipulative, Machiavellian characters.
 "I've read the entire piece. It's not really worth reading. Dowd, as usual, is simply nasty. That's all she can do. Such an ignorant, obnoxious excuse for a reporter ~ the editors who put up with her should be horsewhipped."
 Miss Dowd's column is posted in its acidic entirety at Zsa Zsa Huffington's:
http://tinyurl.com/a2dkk

90 posted on 10/23/2005 7:01:32 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Special Report: Was The Wilson Affair A CIA Plot? -- DiGenova tells this columnist, "It seems to me somewhat strange, in terms of CIA tradecraft, that if you were really attempting to protect the identity of a covert officer, why would you send her husband overseas on a mission, without a confidentiality agreement, and then allow him when he came back to the United States to write an op-ed piece in the New York Times about it."
 
 Plame: Moonbat Goes Mainstream
 
 The Untold Story: Joseph Wilson, Judith Miller and the CIA
 
 Rush Live Thread 10-2 -2005
 
 WHO IS FITZGERALD? WHO APPOINTED HIM? Sean Hannity does some research
 
 The MillionPhone March ["IMPEACH PRESIDENT BUSH NOW. NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY...!"]

91 posted on 10/24/2005 4:52:38 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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The ‘Pinch and Judy’ Show
 
 The Untold Story - Joseph Wilson, Judith Miller and the CIA (MUST READ!!!!)
 
 Al Franken Goes On NBC's TODAY SHOW: “I Think Rove And Libby Will Be Executed”
 
 Joe Wilson's Lies, A Timeline - Who Forged the Documents? (Vanity)

92 posted on 10/25/2005 12:22:11 PM PDT by backhoe
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ABCNEWS TELLS WHITE HOUSE OF 'INDICTMENT' (White House source: ABC bluffing) -- Oh! No! Not "Scooter!" They "got" Scooter...
[ /bitter sarcasm ]
Idiots!
-- the WH is under siege by the MSM.
The public won't stand for it. They resented the media when Clinton was overwhelmed with problems. They ignored the media when Reagan was attacked every day for Iran/Contra.
 
 It's Time For Republicans Finally To Fight Back

93 posted on 10/25/2005 4:49:28 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Will Karl Rove Be Another Indicted for a Non-Crime?
 
 Case against aides (doesn't have leg to stand on. (Valerie Plame case) (MUST READ: NO CRIME) --
Depends on what you mean by "produced"...Rocco just received the documents, he did not forge them. Read on:

Jacqueline, (Wilson's second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. It has been reported that she was a "cultural counselor" for the French Embassy, which some say is code for she was doing undercover work.

In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.

IOW, he didn't lie in his first statement...he saw the documents.

And Fedora has contributed this:

French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Niger embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;

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Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martino’s forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bush’s Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Hussein’s regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilson’s use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administration’s case for war.

What Wilson Didn’t Say About Africa

Wuli also just posted a timeline thread asking the question about how Joe Wilson saw the documents before they were turned over to the CIA and other questions. It also validates the theory that he saw them in advance:

Joe Wilson's Lies, A Timeline - Who Forged the Documents?

Then if you connect the dots between the article,Was the Joe Wilson Valerie Plame Affair a CIA Plot?and the article New York Times: CIA Leaked Plame's Name, you come away with all the makings of French/CIA coup attempt. George Tenet was Novak's first source, he was the administration official that was described as "no partisan gunslinger" by Novak.

It also validates the article by Seymour Hersch (who we normally dismiss as a leftie moonbat):

“Who produced the fake Niger papers? There is nothing approaching a consensus on this question within the intelligence community. There has been published speculation about the intelligence services of several different countries. One theory, favored by some journalists in Rome, is that [the Italian intelligence service] Sismi produced the false documents and passed them to Panorama for publication.

“Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.'

He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.”

Source

The stranger that approached Novak? Larry Johnson, Ex-CIA. And if my theory is correct, Vincent Cannistraro, another ex-CIA agent, who is a security consultant to the Vatican in Rome, engineered the break-in at the Niger Embassy there, where the letterhead and seals were stolen for the forgeries.

I just hope Fitzgerald is following the path. The final nail...it was kind of funny that I have been "warned" that I should not pursue this research by someone in a private freepmail. Too bad...I ain't skeered... : )

42 posted on 10/25/2005 4:07:33 PM EDT by ravingnutter

94 posted on 10/26/2005 4:52:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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Leakgate Law Author Blasts Patrick Fitzgerald
 
Peter King calling Joe Wilson a fraud and a liar on Scarborough NOW -- Peter King had the CIA involvement figured out from the start. Here is an article written by King from 2003:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2006
 
 JOE WILSON OUTED HIS WIFE, Media Ignores -- When this whole thing first broke, I thought I read somewhere (here maybe) that Joe Wilson's bio in Who's Who listed his wife as Valerie Plame. Anyone else remember that?
 http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/wilson.whoswho.pdf

95 posted on 10/27/2005 4:58:50 AM PDT by backhoe
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The Best Comment of the Week About the Plame Case

Hannity Live Thread: Friday 10/28

AP: Rove "Escaped" Indictment [Would They Have Said Same During Clinton Era?]

Was the Wilson Affair a CIA Plot?

Networks Go Live For Libby, But Went to Sleep Over Clinton Cabinet Indictments

The Untold Story: Joseph Wilson, Judith Miller and the CIA

Merry Fitzmas!!!!! Democrats Gleefully Unwrap the Box and get........................SOCKS?????

FITZGERALD DOCUMENTS RELEASED

Libby indicted on obstruction of justice, false statement and perjury charge - RESIGNS -- 618 replies · 28,319+ views


96 posted on 10/28/2005 1:30:27 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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RATS! Again, with html...

The Best Comment of the Week About the Plame Case

 
 Hannity Live Thread: Friday 10/28
 
 AP: Rove "Escaped" Indictment [Would They Have Said Same During Clinton Era?]
 
 Was the Wilson Affair a CIA Plot?
 
 Networks Go Live For Libby, But Went to Sleep Over Clinton Cabinet Indictments
 
 The Untold Story: Joseph Wilson, Judith Miller and the CIA
 
 Merry Fitzmas!!!!! Democrats Gleefully Unwrap the Box and get........................SOCKS?????
 
 FITZGERALD DOCUMENTS RELEASED
 
 Libby indicted on obstruction of justice, false statement and perjury charge - RESIGNS -- 618 replies · 28,319+ views

97 posted on 10/28/2005 1:32:07 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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MY ANSWERS TO TWO MYSTERIES (Plamegate)
98 posted on 10/30/2005 4:32:47 PM PST by backhoe
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 PROSECUTOR PLANS ON CALLING CHENEY AS WITNESS IN OPEN COURT; EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE FIGHT LOOMS -- This nonsense needs to end right now.  Wilson should be indicted for espionage
for his trip to Niger and subsequent conduct,and Plame should be fired, discharged and run out of the CIA on a rail. Since when are employees of the executive arm of government allowed to traduce the policy of a sitting President of the United States? Why hasn't the AG indicted Wilson?
99 posted on 10/30/2005 4:34:52 PM PST by backhoe
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 Spy Valerie and the rogue CIA -- The farcical “outing” of Valerie Plame therefore raises a genuinely frightening monster from the swamp: A subversive alliance between the intelligence bureaucracy, the Democrat Party and the media. The common thread among all the characters in this low-brow comedy is hatred of President Bush and American power.
 

100 posted on 11/01/2005 2:39:35 AM PST by backhoe
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