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Proof that Rove was Right
various FR links & stories | 06-27-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 06/27/2005 6:05:39 AM PDT by backhoe

To properly frame this issue, kindly view this file first- allow it time to load, it is well worth it:
 
 http://www.gunstuff.com/america-attacked.html
 
...and in the words of my old friend from long-lost boards, ALOHA RONNIE-- Never Forget...
 
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 "proof that Rove was Right"
 More "Rove is Right" News
 

There are several posted in the thread, if someone would dig through the posts on this long thread:

Democrats Demand Retraction From Rove

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1428964/posts

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431137/posts

7 posted on 06/26/2005 7:01:54 PM EDT by FairOpinion
 
 What Liberals Were Saying After 9/11 (Smart man that Karl Rove is!)
 
 CODE PINK LEADER GIVES SUPPORT TO TERRORISTS IN IRAQ
 
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Culling links & synopsises from the above:
 
 APOLOGY? - (WHAM! - fabulous retort to Dems' "demand" for "apology" from Karl Rove!!) -- Thanks for posting this most excellent rant. I have saved it to my keeper file.
 
 
What Liberals Were Saying After 9/11 (Smart man that Karl Rove is!)
 
 Rove: Dems Didn't Get 9/11 Consequences
 
 Nets Skipped Or Barely Touched Durbin & Clinton, Now Jump On Rove (Liberal MSM Bias Exposed Again-- (Excerpt) Read more at mrc.org ...
 
 Rove vs. Durbin: A False Parallel, Dems Giving Durbin A Pass-(proof, and more proof; Rove is right!)
 
  Rapid Deployment: New York City Peace Movement Hits the Streets
 
 http://www.webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=darrj&date=050626 -- He Went Way to Easy on Them.
 
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/980200/posts -- 9/11 and the “Anti-War” Left
 
 ROVE RILES DEMS: KNOCKING 9/11 'WIMPS'
 
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429085/posts -- White House Defends Rove 9/11 Remarks After Dems Demand Apology
 "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged." ---- Abraham Lincoln
 
 FROM THE BLEACHERS BLOG
 
 http://defiantzero.blogspot.com/ ( Warning- rough language )
 
 http://www.danielpipes.org/article/1430 -- Democrats Unlearn 9/11
 
 http://slate.msn.com/id/116422/ -- Don't blame Third World poverty for Sept. 11.
 
 Post-September 11 anti-war movement --
 http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Post_September-11-anti_war-movement
 
 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550464,00.html)
 
 (http://www.zmag.org/prashadcalam.htm)
 
 (http://www.zmag.org/chomnote.htm)
 
 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/29/ret.antiwar.protests/
 
 They are doing the enemy's bidding by working to dry up recruiting. In fact the Ruckus Society is holding an anti-recruitment training camp this summer.
 
 Dem Rove Apology Demand Is A Terrible Strategic Blunder
 
 Transcript of Karl Rove's speech to the New York Conservative Party


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Vietnam, Watergate and Rove-- It has been a tough 10 days for those who see current events through the prisms of Vietnam and Watergate.
Back to the Future: Vietnam, Watergate and Rove--Left-wing nostalgia dies hard, but can it survive the events of this week?
 
From the "tolerant, inclusive" Left:

Larry Johnson: “No Wonder Rove’s Mom Killed Herself”

June 15th, 2006

From Larry’s very own corner of the internet, No Quarter: Karl is a shameless bastard.  Small wonder his mother killed herself. 

They are called Truth Out for a reason. Getting the truth out.

But he’s not crazy. Not much.

(Thanks to LibraryLady for the heads up.)

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161 posted on 06/16/2006 4:03:15 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Presumed guilty - The clearing of Karl Rove confounds liberals
162 posted on 06/18/2006 1:46:19 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Fitzgerald Knew Sources Of Plame’s “Outing” All AlongJuly 11th, 2006

From Human Events Online:

My Leak Case Testimony

by Robert Novak

Posted Jul 11, 2006

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has informed my attorneys that, after two and one-half years, his investigation of the CIA leak case concerning matters directly relating to me has been concluded. That frees me to reveal my role in the federal inquiry that, at the request of Fitzgerald, I have kept secret.

I have cooperated in the investigation while trying to protect journalistic privileges under the First Amendment and shield sources who have not revealed themselves. I have been subpoenaed by and testified to a federal grand jury. Published reports that I took the Fifth Amendment, made a plea bargain with the prosecutors or was a prosecutorial target were all untrue.

For nearly the entire time of his investigation, Fitzgerald knew — independent of me — the identity of the sources I used in my column of July 14, 2003. A federal investigation was triggered when I reported that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, was employed by the CIA and helped initiate his 2002 mission to Niger. That Fitzgerald did not indict any of these sources may indicate his conclusion that none of them violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

Some journalists have badgered me to disclose my role in the case, even demanding I reveal my sources — identified in the column as two senior Bush administration officials and an unspecified CIA source. I have promised to discuss my role in the investigation when permitted by the prosecution, and I do so now.

The news broke Sept. 26, 2003, that the Justice Department was investigating the CIA leak case. I contacted my longtime attorney, Lester Hyman, who brought his partner at Swidler Berlin, James Hamilton, into the case. Hamilton urged me not to comment publicly on the case, and I have followed that advice for the most part.

The FBI soon asked to interview me, prompting my first major decision. My attorneys advised me that I had no certain constitutional basis to refuse cooperation if subpoenaed by a grand jury. To do so would make me subject to imprisonment and inevitably result in court decisions that would diminish press freedom, all at heavy personal legal costs.

I was interrogated at the Swidler Berlin offices Oct. 7, 2003, by an FBI inspector and two agents. I had not identified my sources to my attorneys, and I told them I would not reveal them to the FBI. I did disclose how Valerie Wilson’s role was reported to me, but the FBI did not press me to disclose my sources.

On Dec. 30, 2003, the Justice Department named Fitzgerald as special prosecutor. An appointment was made for Fitzgerald to interview me at Swidler Berlin on Jan. 14, 2004. The problem facing me was that the special prosecutor had obtained signed waivers from every official who might have given me information about Wilson’s wife.

That created a dilemma. I did not believe blanket waivers in any way relieved me of my journalistic responsibility to protect a source. Hamilton told me that I was sure to lose a case in the courts at great expense. Nevertheless, I still felt I could not reveal their names.

However, on Jan. 12, two days before my meeting with Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor informed Hamilton that he would be bringing to the Swidler Berlin offices only two waivers. One was by my principal source in the Valerie Wilson column, a source whose name has not yet been revealed. The other was by presidential adviser Karl Rove, whom I interpret as confirming my primary source’s information. In other words, the special prosecutor knew the names of my sources.

When Fitzgerald arrived, he had a third waiver in hand — from Bill Harlow, the CIA public information officer who was my CIA source for the column confirming Mrs. Wilson’s identity. I answered questions using the names of Rove, Harlow and my primary source.

I had a second session with Fitzgerald at Swidler Berlin on Feb. 5, 2004, after which I was subpoenaed to appear before the grand jury. I testified there at the U.S. courthouse in Washington on Feb. 25.

In these four appearances with federal authorities, I declined to answer when the questioning touched on matters beyond the CIA leak case. Neither the FBI nor the special prosecutor pressed me.

I have revealed Rove’s name because his attorney has divulged the substance of our conversation, though in a form different from my recollection. I have revealed Harlow’s name because he has publicly disclosed his version of our conversation, which also differs from my recollection. My primary source has not come forward to identify himself.

When I testified before the grand jury, I was permitted to read a statement that I had written expressing my discomfort at disclosing confidential conversations with news sources. It should be remembered that the special prosecutor knew their identities and did not learn them from me.

In my sworn testimony, I said what I have contended in my columns and on television: Joe Wilson’s wife’s role in instituting her husband’s mission was revealed to me in the middle of a long interview with an official who I have previously said was not a political gunslinger. After the federal investigation was announced, he told me through a third party that the disclosure was inadvertent on his part.

Following my interview with the primary source, I sought out the second administration official and the CIA spokesman for confirmation. I learned Valerie Plame’s name from Joe Wilson’s entry in "Who’s Who in America."

I considered his wife’s role in initiating Wilson’s mission, later confirmed by the Senate Intelligence Committee, to be a previously undisclosed part of an important news story. I reported it on that basis.

As Novak points out, and as we have said all along, Mr. Fitzgerald has known who the sources of this unimportant leak are for months — indeed, for the entire investigation.

What a complete waste of time and money this escapade has been.

Libby should be set free. And Fitzgerald should go to jail.

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"Seems like nobody outed our favorite party floozey, and the “source” didnt think she was any big deal either. Fitzgerald is a paid political assassin….and he should be disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct."

“So the indictment of Libby is no more, and no less, than a witch hunt to burn the witch, the President.”

And our one party media already knew this, since at least October of last year, as evidenced by the New York Times:

Cover-Up Issue Is Seen as Focus in Leak Inquiry

David Johnston

October 21, 2005

It is still not publicly known who first told the columnist Robert D. Novak the identity of the C.I.A. officer, Valerie Wilson. Mr. Novak identified her in a column on July 14, 2003, using her maiden name, Valerie Plame. Mr. Fitzgerald knows the identity of this source, a person who is not believed to work at the White House, the lawyers said.

NYT: Leaker Doesn’t Work In White House | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/better-luck-next-week

Who cares? Don't people have anything better to spend their time on?

This story is actually bigger than you think, and not because Novak supposedly "named" Rove, a typically AP headline that misses the real story. There are a lot of good points made on this thread. A lot of people made interesting contributions, but let me refer you to my posts: Why this is a big story, and
why Rove has testified so often. Just because they're mine, and I don't feel like retyping, not because they're more insightful than anyone else's.

10 posted on 07/12/2006 2:15:05 AM EDT by FredZarguna

163 posted on 07/12/2006 3:33:33 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Plaming Out: Joe Wilson Jumps The Shark (FONZ Alert!)

164 posted on 07/14/2006 3:35:58 AM PDT by backhoe
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The African Connection:Rep. Jefferson and Joe Wilson--Joe Wilson’s new incarnation as a wheeler-dealer in corruption-rife countries in Africa was a perfect fit for his role as impresario of the massive Clinton delegation to Africa, which brought together corruption-stained individuals on the lookout for future business opportunities.--"Many other figures, some of them quite prominent, are likely to turn up as players in the temporarily suspended probe. Independent citizen-investigators, posting at such websites as Just One Minute, Macsmind, and Free Republic, have been poring over publicly-available documents and reports, in search of clues as to the identities of those as yet unnamed in the Jefferson investigation." A complete list of the delegation that went to Africa can be found at the following link: Official Delegation Accompanying the President to Africa  ravingnutter

165 posted on 07/25/2006 2:52:04 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Plame Out - The ridiculous end to the scandal that distracted Washington.--I had a feeling that I might slightly regret the title ("Case Closed") of my July 25 column on the Niger uranium story. I have now presented thousands of words of evidence and argument to the effect that, yes, the Saddam Hussein regime did send an important Iraqi nuclear diplomat to Niger in early 1999. And I have not so far received any rebuttal from any source on this crucial point of contention. But there was always another layer to the Joseph Wilson fantasy. Absolute dead silence from the Drive-By media.
 
Plame and the 'Bush Lied' Meme

Who Won From The Plame Flameout?

It's easy to add up all of the people who lost in the collapse of Valerie Plame leak case after Michael Isikoff and David Corn revealed that Richard Armitage originally gave the information to Robert Novak.  The only man who appears to have emerged from the spectacle relatively unharmed and perhaps enhanced is Karl Rove.Posted by Captain Ed at 06:57 AM | Comments (26) | TrackBack (1)

Kudos to someone who knew the score with Plame--saw the crime aspect as ridiculous--from the very beginning (along with CQ): Victoria Toensing

The Plame Game: Was This a Crime?
By Victoria Toensing and Bruce W. Sanford
Washington Post
Wednesday, January 12, 2005
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2305-2005Jan11.html

Investigate the CIA: An "outing" was the result of either incompetence or an effort to undermine the White House.
BY VICTORIA TOENSING
WSJ Opinion Journal
Sunday, November 6, 2005
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007508


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Washington Post Admits Plamegate Was A Fraud

September 1st, 2006

Someone has captured the editorial board of the Washington Post and replaced them with semi-rational people:

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167 posted on 09/01/2006 4:44:04 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Exonerating Bush, Point-By-Point
Not With a Bang, But a Whimper

I’ve been trying to ignore this totally inconsequential story for quite some time, but maybe now that the Washington Post has signed off, it will finally go away: End of an Affair. Sheer partisan idiocy, taken to an utterly absurd conclusion.Allahpundit thinks there’s a vicious nutroots backlash brewing.  link: 44 comments


168 posted on 09/01/2006 11:47:38 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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The Plamegate Hall of Shame
 
Dangerous Liasons:Wilson , Armitage and the MSM

169 posted on 09/02/2006 4:24:05 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Plamegate - How Wrong Could The Media Get?
170 posted on 09/04/2006 11:14:36 AM PDT by backhoe
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Plame Leak(s) [by Jason "Merry Fitzmas" Leopold]
171 posted on 09/04/2006 4:20:47 PM PDT by backhoe
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David Broder calls out Rove-bashers

By Michelle Malkin   ·   September 07, 2006 09:06 AM

I had to read it several times to make sure it was genuine, but it really is true: Washington Post columnist David Broder calls out the left-wing media for its Rove Derangement Syndrome:Broder specifically name-checks Sidney Blumenthal, Newsweek (for this Howard Fineman piece), and Joe Conason and The American Prospect, which ran this cover last August:

Mirabile dictu! Good for Broder. Still waiting for the New York Times...

Andrew Cline at TAS is, too.

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172 posted on 09/07/2006 1:04:15 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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What a Load of Armitage! What did Patrick Fitzgerald know, and when did he know it?

173 posted on 09/15/2006 4:32:27 AM PDT by backhoe
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