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Russia calls for banning Judaism
Indian Express ^ | 27 june 2005 | Indian Express

Posted on 06/27/2005 5:13:17 AM PDT by voletti

Russia has ordered an inquiry into a 16th century Jewish religious law to ascertain whether it constitutes racist incitement and anti-Russian material, a media report said. Russia’s state prosecutor has ordered an examination into ‘shulhan arukh’, a code of Jewish Halakhic law compiled in the 16th century, and a probe against a Jewish umbrella outfit in Russia for distributing a Russian translation of an abbreviation of the religious law.

The probe was launched after some 500 public figures, including members of the Nationalist Rodina Party, in a letter to the prosecutor’s office urged to outlaw the Jewish religion and all its organisations operating in Russia, daily Ha'aretz reported.

The affair being closely watched in Israel has raised concerns for the Jews of Russia, who have come under increased anti-semitic attacks recently, the report said.

(Excerpt) Read more at expressindia.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Russia
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; russianjews
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To: Porterville

Who's going to run the pogroms, the jewish mayor of Moscow or the half jewish Prime Minister? Or maybe the half-Jewish ultra nationalist Zhirinovsky?


61 posted on 06/27/2005 12:29:05 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: ValenB4; anonymoussierra; BrooklynGOP; TexConfederate1861; struwwelpeter; Destro; A. Pole; ...

Here we go again with the lies and slander.


62 posted on 06/27/2005 12:30:10 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: voletti
The probe was launched after some 500 public figures, including members of the Nationalist Rodina Party, in a letter to the prosecutor’s office urged to outlaw the Jewish religion and all its organisations operating in Russia, daily Ha'aretz reported.

Okay, so 500 people call for the outlawing of a religion based on some 16th century Jewish laws that weren't written in the original Scripture?

63 posted on 06/27/2005 12:32:07 PM PDT by skr (It's time to impeach the murderers and thieves on the bench)
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To: Alouette; Treader
There is a religious revival taking place right now in the former Soviet Union that is making the leftists very uncomfortable.

And some freepers are falling victim to the media from the left, perhaps.

64 posted on 06/27/2005 12:32:07 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

I am beginning to think that you are right about this.


65 posted on 06/27/2005 12:37:31 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: desherwood7

Even Europe is not that anti-semitic, well rather the Europeans. The islamic colonists, that's a different matter.


66 posted on 06/27/2005 12:38:03 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: M. Espinola

Do you know any Jews in Russia? Do you think they feel as you do, or are you just smarter than they are? I can introduce you to a few, some returned from Israel, some are American here working. Not one of them has a problem here and are earning way more than they would in the States or Israel (with western companies, of course).

BTW, that article and issue is OLD and was thoroughly denounced by the Russian government, the Russian orthodox church, and even the Russian muslim community. Don't forget Judaism is one of the five officially recognized religions in Russia - codified by LAW.


67 posted on 06/27/2005 12:40:28 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: M. Espinola

That's funny since 100,000+ Jews have returned to Russia from Israel.


68 posted on 06/27/2005 12:42:52 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: jb6
There has always been a Judas.
69 posted on 06/27/2005 12:43:47 PM PDT by Porterville (Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
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To: skr

It would be something in a land like St. Niss with a population of 20,000 but in a country of 147 million, what's 500?


70 posted on 06/27/2005 12:44:28 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: skr
500 people call for the outlawing of a religion based on some 16th century Jewish laws that weren't written in the original Scripture?

The 16th century codex is a detailed explanation of everyday applications of scriptural law, it does not contain any new laws or observances.

71 posted on 06/27/2005 12:48:45 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: Alouette

Thank you for the information not provided by the report. I'm curious as to what the anti-Russian aspect is.


72 posted on 06/27/2005 12:51:44 PM PDT by skr (It's time to impeach the murderers and thieves on the bench)
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To: Calpernia
Whenever a post is about anti-semitism or Russia the noise to signal ratio seems to get pretty high.

When it's about both, look out!

73 posted on 06/27/2005 12:55:49 PM PDT by struwwelpeter (...and if you don't believe me, then kill me now, 'cause I'll put a jihad on you too!)
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To: skr
I'm curious as to what the anti-Russian aspect is.

My opinion: the fall of the repressive Soviet Union led to a renaissance of Judaism in Russia and the aliyah (emigration of Russian Jews to Israel) took a big hit. The Israeli aliyah professionals became so desperate to fill their quotas they signed up non-Jews, even neo-Nazis.

I am all in favor of aliyah but I think it should be an informed decision, not based on false hysteria.

74 posted on 06/27/2005 12:59:31 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: MarMema
some freepers are falling victim to the media from the left

This story is now showing up on Jerusalem Post and Israel National News, also on the wire services.

It appears to stem from a claim by one "Rabbi Zinovy Kogan" that he was summoned to appear before a state prosecutor to answer accusations made against the Code of Jewish Law.

Now, if there really is an active investigation going on, why would the authorities call on this guy Kogan and not on the Chief Rabbi of Russia, Rabbi Berel Lazar. Furthermore, this guy Kogan belongs to a rival organization that is opposed to the FJC and rejects Rabbi Lazar's authority.

This may turn out to be a "fake memo" episode.

75 posted on 06/27/2005 1:11:52 PM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: M. Espinola
History repeats itself.

That must be why there are so many freepers cleaning their guns in anticipation of the next revolution.

76 posted on 06/27/2005 1:15:21 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Alouette
Knesset Speaker’s Remarks on “Shulchan Aruch” Incident
20:16 Jun 27, '05 / 20 Sivan 5765

(IsraelNN.com) The following remarks regarding the Shulchan Aruch incident were conveyed in Knesset today by Speaker Reuven Rivlin.

“According to reports in both Israel and Russia, some – as yet unknown – official in Russia has ordered the opening of an official investigation, the focus of which is the Jewish legal codex known as the Shulchan Aruch.

“We are aware of official condemnations in Russia (including by both houses of parliament) against this sharply anti-Semitic invective, but condemnations – thus it seems once again – are not enough.

“I am convinced that all MKs join me in my hope that these reports are fundamentally mistaken and that no official source in the democratic Russia of 2005 is involved in a new blood libel against the Jewish People.

“Anti-Semitism is, first and foremost, a malignant disease that damages the society in which it develops. All democratic societies, especially those without longstanding democratic traditions, must internalize the universal lesson that Europe and the world learned in blood from the rise of Nazi Germany: Democracies – if they want to survive – must defend themselves against those who threaten it.

“Democracies that fear to defend themselves, democracies that fear to stop those who abuse the freedoms that they provide, democracies that show forbearance for fascism, racism and anti-Semitism – will not last.

“The Foreign Ministry has demanded clarifications on this matter from Russia and we in the Knesset will closely monitor events; we firmly believe in the ‘zero tolerance’ approach for such severe displays of anti-Semitism.

“The Knesset will not ignore manifestations of anti-Semitism in the world. Every anti-Semitic thug must know that the Jewish state will not allow blood libels against the Jewish People to return to the world.”

77 posted on 06/27/2005 1:23:38 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Alouette
It appears to stem from a claim by one "Rabbi Zinovy Kogan" that he was summoned to appear before a state prosecutor to answer accusations made against the Code of Jewish Law...Now, if there really is an active investigation going on, why would the authorities call on this guy Kogan and not on the Chief Rabbi of Russia, Rabbi Berel Lazar. Furthermore, this guy Kogan belongs to a rival organization that is opposed to the FJC and rejects Rabbi Lazar's authority.

According to the AP story on this (unposted, how many Russia threads can there be in one day) Kogan was summoned because he was the publisher of the Russian language Shulhan Arukh. It's not clear to me that this was an "investigation" of the Shulhan Arukh, rather this seems to be related to the possibility of filing charges against the original lawmakers and the newspapers who printed their accusation. Everyone seems to have a different story.

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Russia Examines Jewish Religious Texts

By MARIA DANILOVA
Associated Press Writer
June 27. 2005 3:55PM

Prosecutors have launched an investigation into whether a Russian translation of an ancient Jewish religious text incites national and religious hatred, a move condemned by many Jewish organizations as anti-Semitic.

Moscow district prosecutors summoned Rabbi Zinovy Kogan for questioning last week as part of a probe into whether the Russian translation of Kitsur Shulhan Arukh, a code of ancient Jewish religious laws, provokes religious hatred, Kogan told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday.

The investigation was meant to review a ruling last month by Moscow prosecutors that the text did not inspire hatred and a criminal case was not warranted, said Kogan, chairman of the Congress of Jewish Religious Organizations who published the translated text.

The Israeli government and Jewish organizations, including the Conference of European Rabbis, condemned the probe.

"To take a traditional Jewish text and try to ban it reminds us of the official state-sponsored anti-Semitism that we saw in czarist Russia," Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said.

The original probe was initiated after two nationalist activists including a prominent far-right ideologue complained the text is aimed at "insulting human dignity based on national and religious affiliation," according to an earlier prosecutors' statement posted on the Web site of an anti-xenophobia group, Sova. The text was also accused of labeling Christians "worshippers of idols" in a reference to Christians' main religious symbol, the cross.

Prosecutors declined comment on Monday.

Kogan denied the accusations. He said the Russian translation of the book, printed in three editions in 1999, 2000 and 2004, with a print run of about 5,000 copies, "is meant to cultivate respect toward other religions and peoples."

"For us it's a book about how to wash oneself, how to dress, how to eat," Kogan said.

The rabbi acknowledged the text has "some incorrect passages," such as an instruction for Jewish women without a medical education not to help non-Jewish women during child birth. But he said such statements from an ancient text could not be interpreted without the appropriate context.

The issue was brought up in January, when 19 lawmakers made the text the center of their appeal to prosecutors to conduct an investigation aimed at outlawing all Jewish organizations, accusing Jews of fomenting ethnic hatred and provoking anti-Semitism.

A group of rights advocates filed a complaint in February, asking prosecutors to determine whether the lawmakers' letter incited national and religious hatred and bring them to justice if it did, said Yevgeny Ikhlov, one of the activists who placed the complaint.

Prosecutors concluded in May the lawmakers' statement did not constitute a crime, but they were conducting a second investigation into the matter, Ikhlov told AP.

Inciting national and religious hatred is a criminal offense in Russia that carries a penalty of up to five years in jail.

Russia and the Soviet Union had a long history of state-sponsored anti-Semitism, including the residence restrictions in the Russian Empire, brutal pogroms at the turn of the 19th to 20th century, and Soviet-era discrimination against Jews.

The government no longer perpetuates anti-Semitism after the 1991 Soviet collapse, but many rights groups accuse Russian leaders of being silent in the face of xenophobia, expressed in the occasional desecration of Jewish cemeteries and more frequent skinhead attacks against dark-skinned foreigners.

78 posted on 06/27/2005 1:35:33 PM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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To: Alouette
I realize things in general of better then under the 'old days' of Brezhnev & the rest.

Putin is supplying the mullahs of Iran every nuclear technical requirement for the unthinkable. If for some reason the situation concerning Iran's nukes becomes very ugly and Putin is blamed for transferring the nuclear knowhow enabling the mullahs to undertake a threatening position, there could very well be a backlash inside Russia.

It's happened before in the land of the pogroms. I don't trust the damn Russians as far as I could thrown them.

79 posted on 06/27/2005 1:39:42 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: jb6
"That's funny since 100,000+ Jews have returned to Russia from Israel."

I am not aware of the numbers, however it's true there has been a reversal.

80 posted on 06/27/2005 1:42:46 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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