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Because the census counts foreigners as well as Americans, 67,000 Californians have the same representation in the House as 217,000 Michiganders.

How does one say "One man, one vote" in Spanish?

I must admit I was unaware of the influence of illegals and legal non-citizens in the apportionment of representatives.

1 posted on 06/26/2005 3:45:54 PM PDT by Founding Father
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To: Founding Father

So Oklahoma lost our Congressional seat because they count illegals? I am for this change 100%! That is absolutely disgusting and am passing on to my State Rep and Senator not mention by Congressman and two Senators.


2 posted on 06/26/2005 3:47:41 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: Founding Father

Counting illegal aliens in the Census is like counting an unknown passerby as part of your immediate family.


4 posted on 06/26/2005 3:54:08 PM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: Founding Father

Making the illegal invasion of the USA a felony
would allow citizen arrests....and force leos to do their jobs
or suffer arrests themselves

imo


5 posted on 06/26/2005 3:54:45 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Just trying to get in touch with my inner tagline)
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'it'll never pass cuz it makes way too much sense' bump
6 posted on 06/26/2005 3:57:50 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Founding Father

Making the illegal invasion of the USA a felony
would allow citizen arrests....and force leos to do their jobs
or suffer arrests themselves

imo


7 posted on 06/26/2005 3:58:54 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Just trying to get in touch with my inner tagline)
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I propose amending the Constitution as written "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside." to read "persons born of legal resident parent(s) or of legal visitors in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside."


8 posted on 06/26/2005 4:04:58 PM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey has more horses per square mile than any other U.S. state.)
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To: Founding Father

Since, legally, only US citizens are allowed to vote, I'm all for it!


9 posted on 06/26/2005 4:06:07 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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It might help to know what 'person' actually means.


11 posted on 06/26/2005 4:08:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Founding Father

I think in the old days, before there was "naturalization" all the people were citizens, except for the slaves and indians which if present in the district were presumed NOT to participate in the body politic.

I don't know the history of naturalization rules, like when they were established. I expect it was a crazy quilt dependent on the state, the time and the ethnicity.


12 posted on 06/26/2005 4:09:22 PM PDT by billl
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I hope Rep. Miller is successful in her effort.


13 posted on 06/26/2005 4:12:48 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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I'm sure that Congress can come up with a workable compromise on the issue, like counting illegals and non-citizens as, oh, I don't know, three-fifths?


19 posted on 06/26/2005 4:23:33 PM PDT by Loyalist (No confidence in Mr. Dithers.)
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The analysis--and conclusion may be correct--but as a Founding Father, aren't you ignoring the fact that we are (or were) citizens of the respective States and not (or were not) citizens of the United States? The use of "persons" allow[s,ed] US to be represented.


29 posted on 06/26/2005 4:40:26 PM PDT by jammer
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Seems like a no brainer to me, but then, so do many things that our government chooses to ignore.


35 posted on 06/26/2005 4:49:32 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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Yeah, but if we're going for true proportional representation, why not first eliminate the most egregious disproportionately representative government body in the country--the US Senate? Plus it'd stop those bastard Democrats from obstructing Bush's nominees and the spineless RINO's from being Byrd and Reid's prison bitches.


48 posted on 06/26/2005 8:42:40 PM PDT by Young GOP Samurai (Leftists: Hating America Since July 4th, 1776.)
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Here's a ping for those who have yet to hear about Congresswoman Candice Miller's (R-Mich) proposal. The discussions to date surrounding the 14th Amendment have centered on the anchor-baby issue.

The way that Amendment is used by bean-counters, however, is much more insidious.

49 posted on 06/27/2005 9:37:17 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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Un hombre-un voto


58 posted on 06/27/2005 3:41:39 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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Every time I think I've heard all the bad news there is on this issue, I learn that there is way more than I thought.


66 posted on 06/28/2005 9:10:46 PM PDT by KittyKares
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