Chinese dragon awakens (prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan)

The Washington Times ^ | 6/26/05 | Bill Gertz

[Jeff Head]

I will post that as a seperate thread...it deserves it.

That's a real stick in the eye to the PRC...as it should be.

[Cindy]

Yep and thanks.

[dennisw]

Why does China want Taiwan? Most people miss the simple answer. It's because of Taiwan's fantastic high tech economy. China salivates at having all that economic power and foreign reserves under it's own rule. To have those high tech engineers to help do research and development on China's high tech war machine.

Taiwan is so powerful in the computer world as afar as chips, motherboards, laptops and more, that after invading/capturing Taiwan, China could possibly play favorites on who gets to buy the latest high tech toys from Taiwan. China will of course have first shot.

[streetpreacher]

"There's a growing consensus that at some point in the mid-to-late '90s, there was a fundamental shift in the sophistication, breadth and re-sorting of Chinese defense planning," said Richard Lawless, a senior China-policy maker in the Pentagon.

You think?

[ThanhPhero]

One of the premier leftist organizationss in the country.they spent the whold Cold War proclaiming that if the US did not eliminate its nuclear weapons altogether the world would be incinerated. Their Doomsday Clock was always advancing under Republican presidents.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

The combination of a vibrant centralized economy, growing military and increasingly fervent nationalism has transformed China into what many defense officials view as a fascist state.

1] Our econmy is OK, not on par with China's.

2] There is not a gram of "fervent nationalism" in the Executive or Legislative branches of our government.

3] Fascist state? I wish the United States was a "fascist state" if China is a "fascist state".

We all should envy China. It is true, they are "fervently nationalistic". Why isn't the United State "fervently nationalistic"? Instead, we are just the opposite--we blow our national treasury by giving it away to foreign terrorist nations. We canel debt owed to us. We give, e.g., billions to Africa, even though we can't even afford to preserve historical monuments, or to pay for the F-22.

We should copy China's government. At least, they have "fervent nationalism", something that America has zero of.

[Jeff Head]

Oh yes...they want it badly. But the Taiwanese are used to freedom and will fight very hard. It is likely that a lot of the factories and many of the negineeres will be destroyed short of us coming to their assistance...which I believe we shall.

[Cindy]

Thanks Jeff for the ping to this thread:
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"China Berates US Shift on Military Staff at Taiwan Mission"
CNSNews.com International ^ | August 1, 2005 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 08/01/2005 3:05:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head

[dennisw]

It is likely that a lot of the factories and many of the negineeres will be destroyed short of us coming to their assistance...which I believe we shall.

I don't think you give the ChiComs enough credit for being able to take over Taiwan peacefully enough to preserve intact Taiwan's hi tech miracle and it's worker bees. China could use a combination of suborning some of Taiwan's master's of industry who have large Mainland investments, plus a coup de tete, plus a few well placed demonstration missile launchings to destroy some hi tech factories to force Taiwan to cave in. If I were China I would try this first.

AKA skillful means

[Cindy]

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China Army delegation due in IRAN
IRIB ^ | 2005/08/14

Posted on 08/14/2005 11:13:28 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

Tehran, Aug 14 - A Chinese military delegation is expected to arrive in Tehran on Monday and meet with high-ranking Iranian military officials.

The delegation will also visit the Army's units and military training centers in order to boost the two countries' military relations.

The visit of the Chinese military delegation follows a meeting between the commander of the Iranian Army of the Islamic Republic and the Chinese military officials in 2002.

China has expressed interest in boosting military relations and cooperation with Iran.

[Cindy]

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"China, Russia Flaunt Forces in Joint Military Maneuvers"
L.A. TIMES ^ | August 16, 2005 | Mark Magnier and Kim Murphy, Times Staff Writers
Posted on 08/16/2005 11:47:16 PM PDT by twinself
BEIJING

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"Shahab 3: an Advanced IRBM(Iran Space Program is a cover for their ICBM program to hit the USA.)"
Weapons of Mass Destruction and Others ^ | 8-9-05 | VARIOUS (See Below)
Posted on 08/09/2005 8:32:46 AM PDT by vannrox
"This is a compilation of articles related to the Iran ICBM missile program. Most space magazines and organizations are praising Iran for their efforts to space launch and explorations. This is my attempt to pull the pieces back into context."

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"Beware Beijing's Military Ambitions"
LOS ANGELES TIMES ^ | August 7, 2005 | Roger Cliff
Posted on 08/07/2005 7:14:55 AM PDT by kellynla


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"Chinese General’s Nuke Threat Reverberates in U.S."
NTI Global Security Newswire ^ | 8/5/2005 | NTI Staff
Posted on 08/05/2005 7:40:30 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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"Chinese dragon awakens (prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan)"
The Washington Times ^ | 6/26/05 | Bill Gertz
Posted on 06/26/2005 12:29:08 PM PDT by Halgr

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"China has nine brigades of ICBMs, Web site claims"
Taipei Times ^ | 7/27/05
Posted on 07/26/2005 10:32:35 PM PDT by LibWhacker


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"The Chinese Military Threat(Wake Up, America!) "
The Washington Times ^ | July 23, 2005 | Editorial
Posted on 07/23/2005 6:58:04 AM PDT by kellynla

EDITORIAL SNIPPET: "This year's Pentagon report on China's military power is somewhat tougher than in previous years. Released Tuesday, the report concludes that China could threaten not just its smaller neighbors, like Taiwan, but in time "modern militaries operating in the region," which is Pentagon-speak for the United States. "The pace and scope of China's military are, already, such as to put regional military balances at risk," the Pentagon concludes. This report is a needed wake-up call following by a week the threat, since disavowed, by a ranking Chinese general that China would hit "hundreds" of U.S. cities with nuclear weapons if the United States should intervene if Beijing attacks Taiwan.

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Iran, China Eye Military Cooperation
Persian Journal ^ | Aug 18, 2005

Posted on 08/18/2005 6:54:51 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

Iran received a military delegation from China, paving the way for cooperation in the defense field, citing Brigadier General Nasser Mohammadi-Far, the commander of the Iranian army's ground forces.

The Chinese delegation is in Iran for talks on "developing military relations, deepening bilateral ties and paving the way for military cooperation," the state-run Iranian news agency said. The press office of China's Ministry of Defense in Beijing declined to comment on the delegation's visit.

"Our mutual enemies possess advanced military technology, and undoubtedly they would rely on this technology in any possible future wars," said Mohammadi-Far. "Therefore, it seems necessary that both Iran and China upgrade their defense and military technology."

China is Iran's third-largest export market for crude oil, and ties between the two countries have strengthened in recent years as Iran started granting stakes in the development of its oil and gas fields. Iran, under U.S. economic sanctions and at odds with both the U.S. and the Europe Union over its nuclear program, is increasingly turning to the East for new markets, opening its economy in return.

[Cindy]

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"China firm buys Calgary oil giant for $5B
Shares of PetroKazakhstan up sharply on acquisition talks"

Canadian Press

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Posted on 08/23/2005 3:25:06 AM PDT by Cindy

[mict42]

"There's a growing consensus that at some point in the mid-to-late '90s, there was a fundamental shift in the sophistication, breadth and re-sorting of Chinese defense planning

Guess under whose watch they were handed the military expertise to become our equal on the battlefield? You got it. Our friends in the Clinton admin. Real patriots, weren't they?

[Cindy]

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"Venezuela Oil Shipments to China Up Markedly, State Oil Firm Says"
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 23, 2005

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuelan oil shipments to China increased fivefold this year, surpassing 68,000 barrels a day on average, the state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela S.A. said Tuesday.
The figure was released as officials announced Monday that the Venezuelan firm known as PDVSA had opened an office in China, the company's first in Asia."