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DeMint Makes Democrats Nervous - (Harry Reid deliberately misrepresenting DeMint's plan)
AMERICAN SPECTATOR.ORG ^ | JUNE 24, 2005 | DAVID HOGBERG

Posted on 06/24/2005 4:39:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE

WASHINGTON -- In recent weeks I had become increasingly glum about the prospects for Social Security reform this year (although I think in the long run the pro-reform movement will prevail). Thus, I couldn't get too excited by the release of Senator Jim DeMint's new plan. But I have to reconsider.

The basics of DeMint's plan are that it only uses the Social Security surplus to create personal accounts and it initially only puts treasury bonds in those accounts. In early 2008 an advisory board similar to the one that manages the Thrift Savings Plan will start adding other investment options.

Two things make me a bit more optimistic about DeMint's plan: (1) a press release from Minority Leader Harry Reid topping off a long string of such press releases this week; and (2) a press conference held yesterday by Brad Woodhouse of Americans United to Protect Social Security and Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research to denounce the DeMint plan. That Reid's press release is a pack of distortions and contradictions and that the press conference was held before the DeMint plan was even released suggests that the anti-reform forces are nervous about this one.

And with good reason. The first benefit of DeMint's plan is that it calls their bluff on both treasury bonds and protecting Social Security. The DeMint plan forces Democrats and other anti-reform forces to answer the question: if the treasury bonds that are in the Social Security trust fund are such a wonderful investment, what is wrong with putting those bonds in personal accounts?

My guess is that the anti-reform forces will quickly try to change the subject. Next, because the personal accounts create ownership they do far more to strengthen Social Security than the current system. Under the current system, we have no ownership right to our benefits -- Congress could even fail to make good on our benefits by defaulting on the bonds in the trust fund. Congress would have a far more difficult time messing with personal accounts that were owned by millions of voters.

The DeMint plan enables the pro-reform forces to pose the question: what protects Social Security more, bonds held in some trust fund or bonds owned by millions of Americans?

The pathetic arguments contained in Reid's latest press release suggest that DeMint has boxed the anti-reform forces in. First Reid claims, "The DeMint Social Security bill allows investment in risky assets," but later adds,

Contrary to proponents' claims, the DeMint bill will not end the misuse of Social Security surpluses for other purposes. Under the bill, Social Security surpluses initially will be used to pay for other government programs in essentially the same manner as under current law -- that is, they still will be used to purchase Treasury securities, and the Treasury still will use the cash to pay for other government programs. After 2008, a portion of excess payroll taxes will continue to be invested in Treasury securities and used to support other programs.

If we make the not too heroic assumption that the those "risky assets" are not treasury bonds, then DeMint's plan does stop Congress from raiding the surplus, at least in part. Every dollar in a personal account invested in something other than a government bond is one dollar less that Congress has to spend. So Reid is either doesn't know what he is talking about or he is prevaricating. Take your pick.

Nor is it correct as Reid states that the DeMint "plan will add $1.7 trillion to the debt in the first 20 years." That debt is still there even if we leave Social Security in its present form; it's just piling up in the trust fund instead of being held by the public. If Congress were to implement DeMint's plan it would mean that the annual deficit would increase, unless Congress cut spending. Perhaps facing the prospects of more pressure for spending cuts is what has Reid so antsy.

Finally, the anti-reform forces are trying to claim the DeMint plan is more than just a first step. At the press conference yesterday Woodhouse griped, "It is more than the camel getting its nose under the tent. It's the camel getting its nose, its head, its hump, everything under the tent." But by limiting the personal accounts to only what is in the surplus and avoiding (for now) the question of solvency, the DeMint plan robs the anti-reform forces of two of their more potent weapons, benefit cuts and so-called "transition costs."

By making personal accounts the first part of Social Security reform it gives Americans a taste of what ownership of Social Security is like. Once that happens, it will likely be much easier to deal with questions of benefit formulas and account size.

So does DeMint's plan have what it takes to achieve a victory on Social Security reform this year? Given events of the last few months, it would be foolhardy to predict yes. But DeMint's plan will force those Senators who vote against it (or, more likely, vote to filibuster it) to defend the continuing raid of the Social Security surplus at the expense of protecting it with personal accounts. That's the best news the pro-reform side has had in a while.

David Hogberg is a senior research analyst at the Capital Research Center. He also hosts his own website, Hog Haven.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 109th; congress; demint; democrat; harryreid; jamesdemint; opposition; personalaccounts; privatization; reform; senator; socialsecurity; southcarolina

1 posted on 06/24/2005 4:39:36 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Hmmm... a very good start. I like it when the Dems are nervous.
2 posted on 06/24/2005 4:41:08 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

There's been quite a bit to like lately, hasn't there.


3 posted on 06/24/2005 4:48:50 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

Good things come to those who are patient.


4 posted on 06/24/2005 4:50:22 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: CHARLITE
DeMint's bill definitely exposes the hypocrisy on the anti-reform side, as it exposes their phony arguments and calls their bluff.

On the other hand, unless the media grows a conscience and does its job, voters will never hear about the hypocrisy and the anti-reform forces will not pay a political price for filibustering this bill.

5 posted on 06/24/2005 4:55:29 PM PDT by NYS_Eric
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To: CHARLITE
By making personal accounts the first part of Social Security reform it gives Americans a taste of what ownership of Social Security is like. Once that happens, it will likely be much easier to deal with questions of benefit formulas and account size.

Yes, it is the camel's nose, head and hump. If Bush can't get his plan through, this one will eventually end in a plan very like what Bush wants.
I'd rather see Bush's plan, but if this is the best that can be passed this year, it still will lead to the correct result eventually.

6 posted on 06/24/2005 5:16:01 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: speekinout
"I'd rather see Bush's plan, but if this is the best that can be passed this year, it still will lead to the correct result eventually."

Excellent conclusion. I feel the same way, speekinout. Let's just get the camel's nose under the tent. The head and hump will definitely follow. This is URGENT. However, aside from a few speeches that the president has made to one or two groups, since his 2nd Inaugural, I don't think that he has made enough of a push to make sure that Americans understand the huge advantages to every working man and woman, of his plan.

The deliberate silence of the media is one explanation for how it is that after this long a period of time, people still don't seem to understand how important Bush's reform measures are. But he too must keep banging the drum on the issue, and I don't see that happening.

Can we say "Bully Pulpit?!"

Thanks for your bright comments, speekinout!

Char :)

7 posted on 06/24/2005 5:22:17 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE
The basics of DeMint's plan are that it only uses the Social Security surplus to create personal accounts and it initially only puts treasury bonds in those accounts.

How do we use a nonexistent surplus to to create personal accounts?

8 posted on 06/24/2005 6:02:23 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
How do we use a nonexistent surplus to to create personal accounts?

As I understand it, Social Security has always run a surplus. That surplus is shrinking as the median age is increasing. In about a decade SSA will be sending out more than it collects and the surplus will be wiped out pretty quickly.

Historically, our elected public servants have seen fit to "invest" the surplus in U.S. Government bonds...which puts a bond (an IOU) in the SS account and gives cash to the U.S. Treasury...which congress immediately spends.

The "surplus" only exists in the form of bonds which the U.S. taxpayers (through our elected representatives) have promised to pay. Once SS is no longer running a surplus the taxpayers will have to make up the difference by honoring those bonds.

9 posted on 06/24/2005 9:31:35 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: CHARLITE; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; Abbeville Conservative; ...

South Carolina Ping

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10 posted on 06/24/2005 9:35:11 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: lucysmom
How do we use a nonexistent surplus to to create personal accounts?

The Social Security account alone (FICA collections less FICA payments) runs a surplus every year...and will continue to do so thru 2019. It will start running a deficit in 2020.

11 posted on 06/24/2005 9:39:13 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: CHARLITE
I agree. Treasury bonds are backed with the full faith and credit of the U.S Government. They're not a risky private market investment. Its going to be fun to watch liberals insist its "too risky" for Americans to manage TB proceeds in their own accounts. This from the same people who prefer to have Americans rely on a bunch of underfunded IOUs to prepare for their retirement instead of being able to count on real money being there for them in their golden years in the form of TBs. I'd love to have the Democrats explain to the public what's so radical about the latter. No matter which way one cuts it, real money is real money. No wonder the Democrats sound panicked.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
12 posted on 06/24/2005 9:45:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: CHARLITE
The bill works to achieve three goals: 1) the Social Security surplus should only be used for Social Security, not other government programs; 2) Surpluses should be saved in personal accounts that are legally owned by workers; and 3) the surplus should not be used to mask the true size of the national deficit. The proposal accomplishes these goals by walling off Social Security surplus money from other government spending through the creation of personal retirement accounts (PRAs).

According to the Social Security Trustees, Social Security will run a surplus until 2017. Currently Social Security taxes pay for retiree benefits, as well as benefits for widows, orphans, and the disabled. Any funds left over, known as the Social Security surplus, are used for other government spending. Including interest, Congress has already spent $1.7 trillion of the Social Security surplus since 1985.

The Stop the Raid on Social Security Act would change this practice by directing money from the surplus to fund newly created PRAs. People under the age of 55 will have PRAs, or can choose to opt out. The accounts will initially be invested in marketable Treasury bonds. This allows a safe and prudent transition period for the development of personal accounts to protect the Social Security surplus.

An independent board, similar to the one which administrates the retirement plan for Members of Congress and Federal workers, will administer the PRAs. In January 2008, the board can offer individuals the opportunity to diversity into other prudent investment options. When a person retires, the account balance will be used to help pay Social Security benefits.

According to the analysis prepared by the Office of the Chief Actuary at the Social Security Administration, the plan:

- Saves $792 billion in cash surpluses in personal accounts between 2006 and 2016;
- Attracts universal participation since there is no down-side for workers;
- Rebates surpluses back to workers as a on a proportional basis. For example, if the surplus amounts to 1.5% of total taxable earnings for all participants, then participants may contribute 1.5% of their taxable earnings;
- In 2006, workers are estimated to receive a 2.2% rebate. Therefore, a worker earning $35,000 in 2006 could contribute $770 to their PRA. If this worker is 25 years of age, invests in government bonds, and retires at age 67, she would accumulate over $43,000.
- Holds solvency harmless so that “full scheduled benefits would be payable until 2041…”
- Uses near-term surpluses to make a dent in the long-term cash flow deficit. The present value of future spending reductions would total $519 billion.

Senator DeMint said, “Social Security has been a secret slush fund for Congress for over twenty years. It’s time to stop the raid and start the accounts. American families pay thousands of dollars in Social Security taxes every year, and not a penny is saved for their retirement. Politicians of both parties have been secretly robbing workers’ retirements to pay for other programs. This plan will take the first step toward long-term reform by locking away money today and reducing government obligations tomorrow. This plan will restore integrity to the program and restore trust with the American people about how Social Security is run.”

Senator Santorum, Chairman of the Senate Republican Conference and the Senate Finance Subcommittee, said, “This legislation is a necessary first step towards saving and strengthening Social Security. The Social Security program is based on a mutual trust between American citizens and the federal government. Hard-working Americans place their earnings into the Social Security system expecting benefits upon retirement. If our government then uses that money to fund other programs, it constitutes a violation of the public’s trust. By stopping the raid on Social Security, we are not only making sure that Americans’ hard-earned money is saved for their retirement, but we are also keeping our word to millions of retirees that their benefits will be there when they retire.”

 
13 posted on 06/25/2005 5:07:15 AM PDT by visualops (http://www.visualops.com FR and Zot gear)
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To: CHARLITE
The pathetic arguments contained in Reid's latest press release suggest that DeMint has boxed the anti-reform forces in. First Reid claims, "The DeMint Social Security bill allows investment in risky assets," but later adds,

Contrary to proponents' claims, the DeMint bill will not end the misuse of Social Security surpluses for other purposes. Under the bill, Social Security surpluses initially will be used to pay for other government programs in essentially the same manner as under current law -- that is, they still will be used to purchase Treasury securities, and the Treasury still will use the cash to pay for other government programs. After 2008, a portion of excess payroll taxes will continue to be invested in Treasury securities and used to support other programs.

I'm not sure where Reid's quote ends but one thing is sure: Reid is correct! But is he telling the full story? Not really!

The key is the fact that there would now be ownership and therefore this debt would be monetized. No longer is the account gimmickry able to be perpetuated. Interest rates will move and people will now have property claims against itself...not government having claims on the government. This will force some fiscal responsibility, and either force the congress to spend less or to raise income taxes to offset all the revenue loss. Politicians will be further boxed into the "fiscal responsibility" corner and this is a good thing. The long-term positive effects will be numerous. The first two, off the top of my head, will be less future liability for the Social Security system and marketable securities that the American people now own...this should hopefully lead to people - people who fence sat or were originally opposed to the idea - to wish to take some further risks with these "now-owned" funds. Enter more reform!

14 posted on 06/25/2005 7:07:05 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (50 states, and their various laws, will serve 'we, the people' better than just one LARGE state can)
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To: okie01; SC Swamp Fox
As I understand it, Social Security has always run a surplus. That surplus is shrinking as the median age is increasing. In about a decade SSA will be sending out more than it collects and the surplus will be wiped out pretty quickly.

SS began running a surplus when contributions were increased during the Reagan administration to cover anticipated shortfalls once the baby boomers start to retire.

Historically, our elected public servants have seen fit to "invest" the surplus in U.S. Government bonds...which puts a bond (an IOU) in the SS account and gives cash to the U.S. Treasury...which congress immediately spends.

Yes, and investing in TB will change that how?

The "surplus" only exists in the form of bonds which the U.S. taxpayers (through our elected representatives) have promised to pay. Once SS is no longer running a surplus the taxpayers will have to make up the difference by honoring those bonds.

That is the case no matter what the bonds are called. It is also true of the TBs bought by the Chinese to fund our current budget deficits, one day they will come due and will have to be paid with interest.

15 posted on 06/27/2005 7:44:40 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: CHARLITE
The basics of DeMint's plan are that it only uses the Social Security surplus to create personal accounts and it initially only puts treasury bonds in those accounts.

So, in other words, the government spends all the surplus now. If DeMint's plan is implemented, the government STILL spends all the surplus. The only difference is that before, the government holds the IOUs against taxpayers, and afterwards I'd hold the IOUs against taxpayers. But it does NOTHING to address the long-term solvency of the system.

No thanks. Unless there are private accounts with the ability to invest in securities other than federal government bonds, I'm not interested.

16 posted on 06/27/2005 7:46:57 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: LowCountryJoe
This will force some fiscal responsibility, and either force the congress to spend less or to raise income taxes to offset all the revenue loss. Politicians will be further boxed into the "fiscal responsibility" corner and this is a good thing.

You are more optimistic than I. Initially it will make our debt "look" bigger than it "looks" now, but it will still be the same old debt.

17 posted on 06/27/2005 7:57:51 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom; SC Swamp Fox
Yes, and investing in TB will change that how?

Those T-bills will be in your name. You and your heirs will own them.

Big difference.

And a good start.

18 posted on 06/27/2005 7:18:39 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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