Posted on 06/24/2005 10:54:52 AM PDT by ExSoldier
One characteristic of Al Queda operations is their focus on using simple means in novel ways to accomplish destruction
9/11 was accomplished with a handful of teams with boxcutters. The attack on the USS Cole was accomplished by people just coming alongside in a small boat containing a bomb. The first WTC bombing in 1993 was accomplished by driving a van full of explosives into the parking garage.
While no official ties exist between the DC Snipers and Al Q, I'm sure they studied with interest the ease with which Mohammod and Malvo created chaos in the DC area
Getting a nuke into DC would be a complex operation that would be vulnerable to interception. I'm sure the feds have detectors along all roadways leading into the city, for obvious reasons.
One article I read recently was going over the interest that suspected Al Q elements had with crop-dusting planes. One assumption is that they would want them to spread bio or chem agents. But that goes against the principle of operational simplicity that seems to characterize Al Q operations. The article writer suggested thinking about the possible death toll if they simply filled a large crop duster's chem tanks with gasoline, dumped it on a sports stadium or a packed rush-hour highway, and tossed out a road flare
We also have stories of Muslims getting truck driving licenses. Visualize a gasoline truck rolling down a rush-hour highway, and somebody opens the tank valve.
Think simple-but-deadly
I don't think those folks will be there under those circumstances, my bet is they'll bug out to wreak havoc elsewhere....and sure there might be mushrooms sprouting in other cities...the existence of one implies the existence of others. In fact there only probably has to be one more on the theory behind the WWII events. The Emperor of Japan wasn't ready to cave after Hiroshima because maybe....just maybe the allies had only the one. But after Nagasaki he surrendered because if they had two....they might have a thousand....
I have not seen this. Thanks very much for the ping. Looks like interesting reading.
AD
You're very welcome.
Appreciate your FReeper page, too, with its preparedness info.
jm
Thanks for the kind words on my FReeper page, but I can't take all the credit. Lots of folks on the Threat Matrix threads provided lots of the info. I just put it all in one place. I continue to add to it when I can.
Thanks ExSoldier for the ping.
Pinging y'all.
Thanks ExSoldier.
Thanks much, I am going to repost this on WT.
Surviving nuclear attack bookmarking again.
Bookmarking post # 297, account of my dream of a state capital in midwest being nuked during my lifetime.
jm
BTTT
SYNOPSIS OF THIS THREAD:
2006 Marker / Refresher / Timely
Surviving a Nuclear Attack [Anywhere]
Everyone’s first reaction is wrong because the problem is not, in fact, the nuclear blast. If at this point you’re still alive and uninjured — and after a Hiroshima-sized explosion at ground level, 99 percent of the people in the D.C. area
[or anywhere else for that matter]
are — then your real problem is the radioactive dust that the blast threw into the air. According to the estimates in National Planning Scenario No. 1, an explosion that kills 15,000 people outright could eventually expose 200,000 people to lethal doses of radiation if they stay exposed and unprotected in the fallout path for 24 hours. Sitting downwind in gridlock, with your vehicle’s windshield shattered, goes a long way toward giving you a lethal dose. All sorts of simple alternatives — moving away from downwind, seeking proper shelter, even taking a shower — go a long way toward saving you.
Fallout is simply radioactive dust, launched miles into the air in a mushroom cloud and then carried on the wind. Much of it is alpha particles, whose radiation cannot penetrate bare skin, or beta particles, which cannot penetrate layers of clothing. Both are most dangerous if inhaled — or if they settle on food that is eaten unwashed. More deadly are the gamma rays, whose radiation can go through walls. But even gammas cannot hurt you from cloud height. The danger starts when the dust settles to earth.
The ideal is to avoid the fallout in the first place. In apocalyptic gridlock, you cannot drive very far. But you may not have to. Normal winds blow the cloud into a long but narrow plume, just a few miles across. In typical Washington-area weather, Virginia, Montgomery County in Maryland, and most of the District itself are not in the fallout path at all. People in the path could conceivably walk out of the fallout zone in the 10 or 15 minutes before the dust begins to fall — if they know which way to go.
But, of course, you cannot count on perfectly typical weather. The wind might shift; the breeze you feel at ground level may be blowing crosswise to the radioactive clouds five miles up; a still day might cause the fallout to seep outward slowly in all directions; sudden rain or snow could wash the dust out of the sky, heavily dousing everything beneath the storm but sparing areas farther out.
If you do not want to trust in weather and traffic, the alternative is what the experts call “sheltering in place.” You want to be in a building, as solid as possible to block the gamma rays, as airtight as possible to keep out radioactive dust. You need to turn off air conditioning, close vents, seal the seams around windows and doorways. If you wondered what former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was talking about, this is what you need the duct tape for. Abandon rooms with windows broken by the blast.
The dust that does not seep into the building will settle outside, on the roof and on the ground, emitting gamma rays. A car with an intact windshield stops 30 to 50 percent of the radiation — probably not enough, however, to save someone who’s inside the car and stuck in traffic a few miles downwind of ground zero. A wood-frame house, similarly, stops just 30 to 60 percent of gamma rays. A windowless basement stops 90 percent. The middle floors of a concrete apartment building, safely away from both roof and ground, stop 99 percent or more. But there is no 100 percent protection.
For those whom evacuation and shelter fail — or for those, like the thousands fleeing in blind panic, who never try either — there is still decontamination. A lethal dose of radiation takes time to build. The sooner the radioactive dust is off the skin, the better. And it is not that hard to remove. “Radiation contamination is easier than chemical,” said Col. David Jarrett, a medical doctor and the director of the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda. “Simply removing the clothes and washing takes off up to 90 percent.”
Every major Washington-area hospital has some decontamination facilities, but 10,000 radiation patients in one day would swamp them. So mass decontamination falls to fire departments, with their mobile pumps and generators; their protective gear; their hazardous-materials experience; and, because both Maryland and Virginia have nuclear power reactors, their years of radiation training. Area firefighters can quickly set up special decontamination tents, and they have plans to take over buildings that have lots of showers — so high school gyms, for example, are a good place to head for. In the chaos of those first hours, said Michael Cline, state coordinator at the Virginia Department of Emergency Management, “the real key is to make sure people go to those facilities.” It will take every firefighter available to man the decontamination sites, and every cop to control the crowds pouring in panic out of the city.
FOR ENTIRE ARTICLE, GO TO
NUCLEAR THREAT INITIATIVE [NTI]
http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2005_6_24.html#A0F258F9
http://www.nti.org/index.html
REFERENCE LINK:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429926/posts
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SHELTERING IN PLACE INFO --
SNIP:
If you do not want to trust in weather and traffic, the alternative is what the experts call “sheltering in place.” You want to be in a building, as solid as possible to block the gamma rays, as airtight as possible to keep out radioactive dust. You need to turn off air conditioning, close vents, seal the seams around windows and doorways. If you wondered what former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was talking about, this is what you need the duct tape for. Abandon rooms with windows broken by the blast.
The dust that does not seep into the building will settle outside, on the roof and on the ground, emitting gamma rays. A car with an intact windshield stops 30 to 50 percent of the radiation — probably not enough, however, to save someone who’s inside the car and stuck in traffic a few miles downwind of ground zero.
A wood-frame house, similarly, stops just 30 to 60 percent of gamma rays. A windowless basement stops 90 percent. The middle floors of a concrete apartment building, safely away from both roof and ground, stop 99 percent or more. But there is no 100 percent protection.
For those whom evacuation and shelter fail — or for those, like the thousands fleeing in blind panic, who never try either — there is still decontamination. A lethal dose of radiation takes time to build. The sooner the radioactive dust is off the skin, the better. And it is not that hard to remove. “Radiation contamination is easier than chemical,” said Col. David Jarrett, a medical doctor and the director of the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda. “Simply removing the clothes and washing takes off up to 90 percent.”
END OF SNIP
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That is exactly what the Bin Ladens want.
You would have one billion surviving Muslims at your throat.
We would have to kill them all the conventional way.
Crusades V.
BUMP
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