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Rove Was Right about MoveOn
National Review ^ | 06/24/05 | Byron York

Posted on 06/24/2005 9:12:27 AM PDT by smoothsailing

June 24, 2005, 11:46 a.m.

Rove Was Right about MoveOn

Just look at the record.

Some officials at the internet activist group MoveOn are denying charges made by top White House aide Karl Rove, who said in a speech to a conservative group in New York Wednesday that "In the wake of 9/11, conservatives believed it was time to unleash the might and power of the United States military against the Taliban; in the wake of 9/11 liberals believed it was time to submit a petition." Rove continued: "I am not joking. Submitting a petition is precisely what MoveOn.org did. It was a petition imploring the powers that be to 'use moderation and restraint in responding to the terrorist attacks against the United States.' "

After Rove's comments, MoveOn released a statement saying flatly, "MoveOn did not oppose the U.S. military action in Afghanistan." And in an interview with the Washington Post, reporter Dan Balz wrote that MoveOn political chief Eli Pariser "disputed Rove's characterization of the petition calling for moderation and restraint, saying that the petition was a personal project before he was affiliated with MoveOn and that it was not on the group's Web site at the time of the Afghanistan war."

Despite Pariser's contention, there is solid evidence that MoveOn did in fact oppose the war in Afghanistan, and that MoveOn founders Joan Blades and Wes Boyd hired Pariser in significant part because of his activism against the war.

The story began with a man who has received little attention in the controversy, a young film student named David Pickering. Visiting his parents' home in Brooklyn on September 11, 2001, Pickering immediately began to worry about the consequences of U.S. retaliation for the terrorist attacks. "It was this incredible moment in which all doors were opened and the world was seeming to come together," Pickering told me in an interview for my book, The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy. "I had this feeling that it would be a shame if that were spoiled by a spirit of vengeance."

The next day, September 12, Pickering wrote a petition calling on President Bush to use "moderation and restraint" in responding to 9/11 and "to use, wherever possible, international judicial institutions and international human rights law to bring to justice those responsible for the attacks, rather than the instruments of war, violence or destruction."

At the same time, Pariser, who had graduated from college the year before and was working at a liberal nonprofit organization in Massachusetts, was writing a similar petition, which he put on a website he created called 9-11peace.org. Pariser noticed Pickering's work and e-mailed him to suggest that they merge their sites. Pickering agreed, and 9-11peace.org featured a petition which read:

We implore the powers that be to use, wherever possible, international judicial institutions and international human rights law to bring to justice those responsible for the attacks, rather than the instruments of war, violence or destruction. Furthermore, we assert that the government of a nation must be presumed separate and distinct from any terrorist group that may operate within its borders, and therefore cannot be held unduly accountable for the latter's crimes. . .

Meanwhile, across the country in Berkeley, California, MoveOn founders Wes Boyd and Joan Blades were writing an anti-war petition of their own. Entitled "Justice, not Terror," it read, in full: "Our leaders are under tremendous pressure to act in the aftermath of the terrible events of Sept. 11th. We the undersigned support justice, not escalating violence, which would only play into the terrorists' hands."

As they staked out their own anti-war position, Blades and Boyd were also following the progress of 9-11peace.org. In a September 2004 interview for The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, I asked Blades how she had come to know Pariser. "It was after 9/11," she told me. "He put out a message similar in results to the one we had, basically an e-mail petition asking for restraint. It went viral on an international scale. . . . Eli's petition grew to half a million in half a week. Peter [Schurman, the executive director of MoveOn] contacted him because he figured he probably needed some help. We did provide him with some assistance, and we started working together on other issues and eventually merged." In the end, their shared opposition to U.S.-military retaliation for the September 11 attacks brought Pariser and MoveOn together. (For his part, David Pickering moved to Paris to attend film school.)

Critics have suggested that at the very least, Rove's "liberals" charge was overbroad. That's a fair criticism. But as far as MoveOn is concerned, Rove's words were accurate and fair.

— Byron York, NR's White House correspondent, is the author of the new book The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy: The Untold Story of How Democratic Operatives, Eccentric Billionaires, Liberal Activists, and Assorted Celebrities Tried to Bring Down a President — and Why They'll Try Even Harder Next Time.    

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200506241146.asp    


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: byronyork; karlrove; moveon
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To: doug from upland

As Dan Patrick said today, Rove stated:

"LIBERALS saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.''

The Democrats bit this one hook ,line, and sinker.
Even though everyone always knew this, the Dems always tried to call themselves the PROGRESSIVE party, not the LIBERAL party.

They have now renamed the Democratic Party the LIBERAL PARTY
all on their own.


21 posted on 06/24/2005 10:02:08 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: smoothsailing
Furthermore, we assert that the government of a nation must be presumed separate and distinct from any terrorist group that may operate within its borders, and therefore cannot be held unduly accountable for the latter's crimes. . .

Wow, it really is a mental disorder.
22 posted on 06/24/2005 10:06:00 AM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: JFC
The leftist always said that if President Bush won reelection he would be impeached within a year and now everyone knows how they were going for the self-fulfilled prophecy, destroy the military to get to Bush.
23 posted on 06/24/2005 10:13:53 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: OldFriend

I believe Michael Moore was there, as he was at the RNC, as a member of the press. Can you point me to where I would find I am wrong, please?


24 posted on 06/24/2005 10:20:24 AM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: pleasedontzotme
Michael Moore sat in the President's Box at the DNC, along side former President Jimmy Carter.

Guess you're a big fan of moral equivalence, eh.

25 posted on 06/24/2005 10:24:24 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: smoothsailing
ha, ha, ha...

the liberals/dems/stealth-commies are scurrying for the shadows like cockroaches run from the light!

26 posted on 06/24/2005 10:26:53 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: houston1

Politics is one thing, but it does a disservice to the Democrat members of the armed forces who are risking and giving thier lives every day in Iraq to make comments like this

Which is why Rove used the word Liberals instead of Democrats.


27 posted on 06/24/2005 10:30:16 AM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: houston1

Note: Rove did not say "Democrats", he said "Liberals" which is a subset of the Democrat party. He was right.

Unlike Durbin, who referred directly to our armed forces when he compared their actions to those of Nazis, Gulag guards, and Pol Pot's military.

This is so obviously an attempt to divert attention...if it weren't for the MSM desire to support it, they would not give it the time of day.


28 posted on 06/24/2005 10:31:38 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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