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THE END OF PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS
Nealz Nuze ^ | June 24, 2005 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 06/24/2005 5:11:41 AM PDT by beaureguard

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To: beaureguard
The Supreme Court decision is

The Supreme Court decision is making the chickens scurry around the yard. Otherwise, nothing has changed.

121 posted on 06/24/2005 8:24:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Lazamataz
Thanks for the correction, I thought you lost your mind.

Come to think of it.......:^}

122 posted on 06/24/2005 8:24:37 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Bring Back Old Sparky

The liberals are just as upset by this ruling as we are, just take a look at DU.


123 posted on 06/24/2005 8:28:21 AM PDT by Eva
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To: TKDietz
"What's interesting to note is that three of the five in the majority were appointed by Republicans, Justices Stevens, Souter, and Kennedy."

Substitute "disturbing" for "interesting".

Stevens was nominated by Ford to appease the dims in the wake of Watergate. Souter was nominated because he had no paper trail like Robert Bork. (No paper trail = not enough data to determine character = way to hide a slug!) I don't know the circumstances of Kennedy's nomination. I would bet it was for equally stupid reasons.
124 posted on 06/24/2005 8:30:31 AM PDT by Bring Back Old Sparky (Teddy Kennedy: Drink! Drive! Swim for your life!)
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To: Freebird Forever

" It was strangely unsettling to find myself agreeing with anything uttered by Colmes."

Tums, Rol-Aides, or the pink stuff? ;0)


125 posted on 06/24/2005 8:34:12 AM PDT by Bring Back Old Sparky (Teddy Kennedy: Drink! Drive! Swim for your life!)
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To: Eva

"just take a look at DU"

Not gonna do that...wouldn't be prudent!


126 posted on 06/24/2005 8:37:35 AM PDT by Bring Back Old Sparky (Teddy Kennedy: Drink! Drive! Swim for your life!)
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To: RightWhale
On that you are wrong. Mayor of NY Mike Bloomberg mentioned the decision on his weekly hour on the John Gambling show. Every mayor and town selectman, town boardperson is re-considering their options, and so are developers. Enevlops, undoubtably, are being stuffed as we speak. Larger envelopes are being ordered. Being elected to local council has just considerably improved as a money-making opportunity.

You, I think, are looking at those, like us all, oppossed to this terrible ruling. You see no ability for us to affect anything upon it. All just talk.

Yes and no.

For the primary actions are already underway -- from those looking to exploit this ruling.

127 posted on 06/24/2005 8:43:40 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Sure, a lot of squawking and scurrying.

No effective action.

Nothing was going to change anyway, property is a bundle of rights.

Alaska might make property rights more explicit, and that merely affirms that property rights come from the State in the first place.

128 posted on 06/24/2005 8:47:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: Lazamataz
This ruling has nothing to do with President Bush. It's a Supreme Court decision. Our government provides for the separation of powers.

Bush hasn't had an opportunity to nominate a single Supreme Court justice yet, and the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are stonewalling him on his constructionist appointees to lower federal benches.

His nominees bear out the obvious: Bush wants less activist federal courts. Save your ammunition for the actual culprits.

129 posted on 06/24/2005 9:00:27 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: Bring Back Old Sparky

they are. ck out the DU, I don't know which surprises them more, that their "liberal champions" pulled this outrage, or that they are in agreement with us Freepers.

But that's all the libs will do; they're sheep, remember? Or perhaps, lemmings is the better description...


130 posted on 06/24/2005 9:26:54 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: All

It matters not what our state representatives do. Big brother has spoken. We are serfs residing on the Kings land. They have said our land is not ours--that is their decision, regardless of what a state legislature decides, that is the way they feel. They can change their mind and nullify the states decision to be different whenever they want.

TLR


131 posted on 06/24/2005 9:29:49 AM PDT by The Last Rebel
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To: beaureguard
There are eight states in the nation where the use of eminent domain for private development is all but prohibited by law. Those states are Washington, Montana, Illinois, Kentucky, Arkansas, Maine, South Carolina and Florida.

I don't feel secure here in Washington state where in Unincorporated King County if you own 5 acres or more you cannot use 65% of your land. You cannot build on it. You cannot plant on it, heck you cannot even pick berries or clear out invading weeds.You own it and pay taxes on it, but you can't use it.

How can we have faith after state and federal elections laws were violated and ignored. Laws mean nothing here.

132 posted on 06/24/2005 9:45:21 AM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where there are no rules or standards in elections.)
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To: conservativecorner

Here here.


133 posted on 06/24/2005 9:46:16 AM PDT by Max7
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To: RightWhale

I noticed you have mentioned on several threads that nothing has changed. Please bear with my ignorance, I am trying to catch up with the issue at hand and would appreciate any insight you can provide.

I recall hearing about a family in Coatesville, PA that was had a long battle over their property with the city of Coateville. Here is a link to their site - http://www.saveourfarm.com/index.htm

The city was trying to have the property condemned in order to develop a municipal golf course. The family fought the city for several years and eventually agreed to sell 5 acres of their 48 acre property.

Now, what has changed is that with the Supreme Court ruling, again, I am not up to speed on the details, but on the surface, it would seem that Coatesville could simply take the property they wanted and the Saha's would have no legal recourse.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts on the matter.


134 posted on 06/24/2005 9:51:58 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Chunga
This ruling has nothing to do with President Bush. It's a Supreme Court decision.

I think he could have called.

135 posted on 06/24/2005 9:58:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: new cruelty
No, they cannot simply take the property, and they never could simply take the property. Even the Constitution says that the gov't must pay the fair value when they take.

For further interest, possibly academic interest only, see Bentham, concept of Utilitarianism, which is commonly studied in Ethical Theory as it applies to the greatest good to the greatest number for the longest time. Utilitarianism was intended as a principle of operation for gov't, principle meaning literally first take.

136 posted on 06/24/2005 11:16:16 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: RightWhale

Take was a poor choice of words. The Saha's had no intention of selling and would have preferred to keep their land. They managed to lose only 5 acres. Now, can the local government purchase all 48 acres and the Saha's would be forced to sell?

Thank you for the additional reference. I will look into it all.


137 posted on 06/24/2005 11:26:58 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

Yes, they may be forced by court order to sell. This was always the case, however now it comes as a surprise to many, both on the Left and on the Right. It seems there was something left out of our public education class in civics. Or maybe we slept in class that day--all of us.


138 posted on 06/24/2005 11:32:17 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: RightWhale

You noted that it was always the case that the Saha's may have been forced to sell. I do not see that as always being the case. That is, the Saha's (at a great expense) were able to resist the local government for several years- mainly because their was some question as to whether the proposed project (a municipal golf course) was deemed necessary for the good of the public. But with this new ruling, it would seem that what was once in question is now more than ample reason to force someone to sell their land and so, if the local government wished to act, they could now force the Saha's to sell without a fight.

Yes, there is no doubt that I've been asleep. I appreciate your insight.


139 posted on 06/24/2005 11:44:35 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

Being primarily a local issue in most cases, the local community has a great deal of control. Public hearings, sympathetic representatives in the city or county, legal challenges, all can delay or stop any development or zoning meaasure. We have had these controls all along, but not a lot of citizens show up for public meetings. There will be more interest for a while at city council meetings.


140 posted on 06/24/2005 11:50:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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