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THERE IS NO PING LIST - A LINK TO THE NEW THREAD WIKLL BE PLACED ON THE PREVIOUS THREAD - PLEASE BOOKMARK THE THREAD.
1 posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:52 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: brigette
Arubans for Arubans? Put your own people first?

Here's a song written long ago by calypso singer Lord Kitchner (1922-2000):

Your Own Comes First

If I talk again it could drive me mad
I try to talk to the people of Trinidad
If I talk again it could set me mad
I'm tired if talkin' to the people of Trinidad
All kinds of people come and doin' well
And you the Trinidadians only catchin' hell
How many times do you want to be told
Your own comes first all over the world

If you think I lie, I invite you please
Just take a trip through the West Indies
Make your first stop at Grenada
Tell them that you come to look for labor
If you miss and say you're from Trinidad
They lick you from Grenada down to Fyzabad
But you can't blame them on a whole
My friend, that's the policy of the world

So, Granadians for Granadians
Jamaicians for Jamaicians
Even Barbados take the same route
Trinidadians, buck up and follow suit
Well now you really lookin' for blows
If you think you goin' anchor in Barbados
The Bajuns goin' tell you you bloomin' fast
Don't you know Bajuns first and outsiders last
Then you heist your anchor to Jamaica
Feelin' that your chances might be better
But as I've led you to understand
Boy, we only have work here for Jamaicans

I'm not all selfish, I love to give
And I believe in the slogan live and let live
If the other islands aren't doin' that
Well I don't see why we should be Miss Howard's cat
It's time to go into the reverse
Do like other nations put your people first
You must do as you are told
Or you would be the laughing stock of the world

3,944 posted on 06/28/2005 6:45:31 PM PDT by gg188
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To: brigette
This may come in handy one day:


4,332 posted on 06/29/2005 8:35:50 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: brigette

Where is Natalies father? I see her step father, but where is her biological father?


4,658 posted on 06/29/2005 6:41:49 PM PDT by SandyB
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To: brigette

I am following your threads, however why is this thread almost at 5,000, don't you think we need a new thread?


4,695 posted on 06/29/2005 7:12:38 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: brigette
Long thread.

Seems the FBI and the guys from Texas didn't find anything.

What's the bottom line?
4,975 posted on 06/30/2005 7:36:16 AM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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Sorry I can't do more than a hit and run post today, but I wanted to post my impressions of last night's news for anyone who didn't get to watch either Hannity and Colmes or Greta's show:

(And please forgive if this information has been posted earlier -- no time today for me to read through previous posts).

First, Hannity and Colmes had a couple of voice stress analyzer people as guests on the show. Apparently these guys have been invited to Aruba (by prosecutors?) to use their equipment,

They demonstrated the program on their laptop, using an audioclip from Greta's sit-down with the van der Sloots the other night.

According to them, their analysis of the portion of the audio that was available showed
(a) that Paulus van der Sloot was being honest when he answered that he believed his son's story
(b) that Mr. vdS was honest when he expressed confidence his son would be exonerated
and (c) that Mr. van der Sloot did show evidence of stress and concern over the effect the intense pressure of interrogation might have on his son.

I was hoping either Rich Lowry (substituting for Hannity) or Alan Colmes would get a chance to ask questions about the track record of this equipment, but the segment was very short and I don't think this got addressed.

One other guest on H & C, Mark Fuhrman, mainly focused his comments on the lack of evidence gathering early-on by the Aruban police, and decried that at length. Toward the end of that segment, Fuhrman indicated that the timeline for Joran (i.e., trying to figure out if Joran could possibly have had time to murder and dispose of the body) was very difficult.

(According to an Aruban reporter Greta spoke to a couple of nights ago, Joran WAS on the school bus at 6:40 am the morning of Natalee's disappearence, and he did take his final exams that day. According to that reporter, he "aced" his finals.)

Second, on Greta's show she interviewed an Aruban man, Charles Croes, who apparently had been enlisted by the Holloway-Twittys to help them find Joran (I wasn't too clear on the connection since I missed the first part of the interview).

This Mr. Croes (apparently no relation to Steve Croes, the party boat guy) helped the Holloway-Twittys figure out who Joran was and where he lived, then accompanied them to the vdS home.

Charles Croes ended up being an eyewitness to the 3 am confrontation of the Holloway-Twittys with Mr. vdS and Joran outside the vdS home -- just after the H-Ts had arrived in Aruba. This was the first meeting of the H-Ts with Mr. vdS and Joran.

Greta asked him about Joran's demeanor during this confrontation. He said Joran seemed nervous but also very concerned about Natalee and that he volunteered to the Holloway-Twittys several times to do whatever he could to help them find Natalee.

Greta also asked Croes if Mr. vdS had told Joran to be quiet. Croes answered that Mr. vdS had told Joran to answer questions only from the police, not from any other people there (apparently there was quite a crowd).

Another question from Greta was whether Joran had discussed at all what Natalee's condition was when he last saw her. He said yes, that Joran had said Natalee was both drunk and had been taking drugs.

She then asked whether Joran admitted to having been drunk and taking drugs too. Croes responded that Joran admitted to having drunk that night. He said Joran also admitted he'd had sex with Natalee.

Also, the matter of where Natalee and Joran had first met came up. I don't remember Croes's answer exactly, but he did say that Joran's story was that they were together in a casino and that Natalee had told Joran she'd lost money gambling. Croes said that Joran was very skilled at poker or blackjack and that Joran then had helped Natalee "recoup" her money.

Croes continued that after they left the casino, when both Joran and Natalee ended up at Carlos and Charlies bar, that Joran said Natalee was dancing with him "very provocatively" and that she was acting "crazy." And that she had asked him for a ride home.

When asked when he last saw Natalee, Joran's story at the point was that he had dropped her off at her hotel.

The last thing I remember from Greta's interview with Charles Croes is that Greta asked him if he was under the impression that either Mr. vdS or Joran seemed to know that Natalee was missing, at that first meeting with the Holloway-Twittys. Croes said no, he didn't think they did.

OK, that's it for me for today. (Sorry I won't be able to answer replies today, just too busy. Hope and pray that by the time I come back, Natalee will have been found.)

4,979 posted on 06/30/2005 7:43:10 AM PDT by gingersnaps
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NEW THREAD - #4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1433901/posts

 

 

5,022 posted on 06/30/2005 8:32:56 AM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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