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Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Howlin
Yes, I am a gull! (But you can just call me a "gossipy woman" if you want to; somebody did just today! Yes, I saw that. I don't know why we all just can't get along. :)
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posted on
06/25/2005 10:01:56 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: Howlin
I keep hearing that they expect Satish to be released. We will know tomorrow morning if he is released. Remember the judge missed his plane and that the hearing will be in the morning.
2,102
posted on
06/25/2005 10:01:56 PM PDT
by
stlnative
(BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
To: Howlin
I think it would be a wise move to release all of them except for Joran and his Daddy. That way let those 2 think that they are both going down for Natalee's kidnapping, death, etc. (Put the other men on house arrest)
2,103
posted on
06/25/2005 10:05:06 PM PDT
by
stlnative
(BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
To: Gracey; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Joran called Deepak up at 2:30 a.m. for Deepak to pick him up.
Then Joran then text message Deepak not to pick him up about 30 minutes later.
So since there is knowledge about these communications, do they have any other communication from Joran to anyone else to pick him up or was it already planned for someone to pick him and perhaps Natalie up and in the meantime set up the Kalpoes for the missing Natalee or only as an alibi. Is this where the premeditation comes in.
Was there another phone call from Joran to someone after 2:30 a.m. 5/30/05.
2,104
posted on
06/25/2005 10:11:58 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: brigette
How clever might Joran be? Maybe he was calling/text messaging to leave the impression he was somewhere he wasn't. Would he call his father at the hour for his second ride home of the night, after supposedly sneaking out?
To: brigette
From SM: Re: Beth Twitty
writenow wrote:
absolut wrote:
Is it true on top of it that Beth was in Arkansas and had to drive home first?
I think that's what the "People" article says. She tried to get a police escort and couldn't, so she was doing 110 mph and got pulled over, told them what had happened and then I think she got an escort.
I wonder why they didn't fly over to Arkansas and pick her up on their way to Aruba??? Seems like Arkansas would be a pretty long drive to Birmingham. Over 5 hours, I'm sure. Maybe more like 8-10 hours. What part of Arkansas did she drive from
2,106
posted on
06/25/2005 10:15:24 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: TexKat
To: Gracey; the Deejay; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; ...
Okay did Joran get his cell phone when he went home after his father picked him up around 11:00 p.m..
The reason I ask is that Greta reported Joran phoning his father to be picked up from McDonalds at 11:p.m.
Did Joran use a payphone at this time?
Is the cellphone Joran used at the beach his own or someone elses?
2,108
posted on
06/25/2005 10:23:41 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: fatima
To: TexKat
Tell me what Beth just said about being positive Paulus is involved, please.
To: TexKat
That was when Paulus went to pick up Joran at 11 p.m., coming home from the casino; supposedly.
When did he use a cellphone?
To: TexKat
Then Joran then text message Deepak not to pick him up about 30 minutes later.
I am being anal - Geraldo said about 45 minutes from 2:30am
At Large w/Geraldo Show - air date Saturday 6/25/05 - 9pm central time
Part of what Geraldo said on his show tonight (typed in word for word from playing it back on my Tivo system - play -pause - type - play - pause - type.)
David Kock (sp?) an attorney for Satish Kalpoe knows for a fact that telephone records prove that Joran and the Kalpoe boys separated that night, as the Dutch kid presumably took Natalee to the beach for his make out session. According to Kock those phone records also show that Joran later called the older brother (Deepak) at about 2:30am May 30th. The lawyers says the Kalpoe boys had dropped Joran and Natalee at the beach near this hotel, the Marriott and that... that call was a request for Deepak to return to the beach to pick up Joran and maybe Natalee up, about 45 minutes later (3:15am?) according to the attorney Joran text messaged Deepak not to bother picking him up, not to bother picking Joran up, that Joran had found another way home. So now the question is did Joran's father pick him up that night is he the one that Joran got the ride from the beach and back home. Did the Dad ask his son what was going on, did his son at that time or later on confess wholly are partially to a crime? ---- commercial break ---- then off to talk to the Twitty's
2,112
posted on
06/25/2005 10:31:55 PM PDT
by
stlnative
(BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
To: Howlin
So what is Mark's scorecard now after this-do you know..
2,113
posted on
06/25/2005 10:36:43 PM PDT
by
fatima
(Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)
To: fatima
Has he been involved in any other cases besides that one? (I do NOT count O.J..........LOL)
To: demkicker
To my knowledge, none of Natalee's friends or classmates have verified they witnessed Natalee yelling out the window or Deepak stopping to supposedly ask Natalee if she wanted out of the car. Personally, I think that's part of their memorized cover-up. Otherwise, we should have all heard from the kids who witnessed the drive-off. This is one of those little rehearsed details they used to convince everyone that Natalee WANTED to go with them.
I distinctly remember early on one of the classmates quoting Natalee as yelling, "Aruba, Aruba, WooHoo."
2,115
posted on
06/25/2005 10:48:37 PM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Howlin
Mark has good insight and I think I like him.
2,116
posted on
06/25/2005 10:52:07 PM PDT
by
fatima
(Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)
To: fatima
Oh, I like him just fine. And I think he got hosed in O.J.
To: Palladin; demkicker
Oh...I thought she said she had seen Satish in jail but not Deepak. Never mind.
I can't remember for sure either but I thought she could not visit either of them since they were both of legal age; Anita could visit Joran because he is still a minor. I think that is what I heard.
2,118
posted on
06/25/2005 10:53:43 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
To: Malichi
To: demkicker
Fox News reported that PvdS had contacted Croes looking for a job.
I think that "Croes" is someone who works for the government and is not related to the DJ "Croes." In Aruba, it has been said, "Croes" is like "Smith" in the US. I think that is what I heard, or read on this thread.
2,120
posted on
06/25/2005 10:58:08 PM PDT
by
hummingbird
("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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