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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: Palladin

Oh I get it, you said the same thing I said.

Jossy has an interesting history, go google him if you want to.


2,001 posted on 06/25/2005 7:41:46 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: johnb838

He was a civil servant and was going to school to become a judge. He was a "sit in" Judge (meaning it was part of his schooling) and he always had someone over seeing his court work before a judgement would be set in a case he over saw. He went to Holland to take his finals to be a full time judge and he failed his exams, this also took him away from being a sit in judge. (He failed about 1 week before Natalee came up missing when he failed his exams)

Think of a doctor in training... before he earns his PHD. The doctor in training takes his exams at the end of his on the job training and if he fails he has to start back over with training. PVDS does not get a second chance to become a judge, so most likely he would have returned to his civil servant job (possibly a teacher on the islands payroll), but they suspended him after Joran was arrested. So he most likely never went back into his old position before he decided to try and become a judge.

Go back and read a few pages back for more info.


2,002 posted on 06/25/2005 7:44:18 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From Geraldo:

Harris Faulkner's video of Joran did not meet what they are reporting at this time.

2,003 posted on 06/25/2005 7:46:57 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

What does Fuhrman say? (I don't have cable). He's a smart cop.


2,004 posted on 06/25/2005 7:47:44 PM PDT by agsloss
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To: TexKat

Talking about the preppie killere,,film of him,,he looks like hell. Life has been unkind to Chambers, thank God.


2,005 posted on 06/25/2005 7:47:57 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: agsloss

Furman says Joran didn't walk home from the beach, he is privileged young man who wouldn't walk, would call for a ride. He sees father and son as both behaving "privileged",,i.e. entitled, i.e. naricissitic.


2,006 posted on 06/25/2005 7:49:03 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: brigette

I have read elsewhere that PVDS' "regular" job was liaison between the Aruban gov't and the Dutch gov't.


2,007 posted on 06/25/2005 7:51:01 PM PDT by agsloss
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What does Fuhrman say? (I don't have cable). He's a smart cop.

Nothing worth repeating. He was on the phone in Ohio speculating.

Yes Fuhrmn is smart enough to write books to make a living.

2,008 posted on 06/25/2005 7:51:22 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cajungirl

Joran is Daddy's alter ego.


2,009 posted on 06/25/2005 7:51:49 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: TexKat

Wouldn't if be something if Aruba asked Geraldo to leave if he starts reporting lies or embellishes some facts. Maybe he was already warned from his boss.


2,010 posted on 06/25/2005 7:52:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TexKat
Can't understand why everyone thinks that arresting the dad will put pressure on the son to talk. If the son is truly a sociopath, that kind of monster cares for noone but themselves. They aren't capable of emotions like normal people!
2,011 posted on 06/25/2005 7:52:51 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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From Geraldo:

Jug would like AVDS to be brought in for questioning.

Beth thinks that the interrogation is not going to well with PVDS.

2,012 posted on 06/25/2005 7:53:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Wouldn't if be something if Aruba asked Geraldo to leave if he starts reporting lies or embellishes some facts. Maybe he was already warned from his boss.

LMAO!!

2,013 posted on 06/25/2005 7:55:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: johnb838

Are you referring to the dark haired girl BOR was interviewing a few nights back? I observed quite well and I think she was both jealous&not a real friend of Natalee's. I sensed she was a demon in human form. The numbers for that girl just do not add up. NSNR


2,014 posted on 06/25/2005 7:55:44 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: agsloss
The Dutch government oversees Aruba, so yes he would be a civil servant to both. Exams were in the Netherlands, he failed them. Some people say he was a teacher of law history before he started going to school to become a judge.
2,015 posted on 06/25/2005 7:56:31 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: Bush gal in LA

The best hope to solve this case is to find the body!


2,016 posted on 06/25/2005 7:56:37 PM PDT by '61 Libertarian
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To: TexKat

Fuhrman said what we have been saying (I think he reads here): That the son was with the girl when she either died accidentally or was killed by JVDS; son called the Dad; the Dad said Rut-Roh, I gotta clean up this mess. They spent the rest of the hours before dawn disposing of evidence and concocting an alibi.

I was just thinking: what if the elder VDS got that money from the ATM to buy a plane ticket and send Joran out of Aruba to a non-extraditable country, like those Connecticut parents of rapist Alex Kelly did? But before he could shuffle him off, Anita came home from Holland and the Twittys showed up on the island. (Flight or fight theory).


2,017 posted on 06/25/2005 7:56:56 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Yes, that's our Frances Ellen.


2,018 posted on 06/25/2005 7:57:44 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Do you remember the interview w/Greta and two girls? If so, do you recall Greta asking if NH returned to the HI and the girl said "yes and that is all I'm going to say about that". Not exactly words but something do that effect?


2,019 posted on 06/25/2005 7:59:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Palladin

Maybe Fran is jealous nat is getting all the "attention". I knew girls like that growing up.


2,020 posted on 06/25/2005 8:00:04 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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