To: America First Libertarian
I value morality, but I am a sinner, and surely would rather die, that legislate another adults behavior I don't see the homosexual issue as one of legislating another's behavior.
Homosexual soilder? OK but keep quiet about your bedroom pals and bedroom behavoior. What is being legislated?
Homosexual marriage? Well, form a legal contract with whomever you choose. Again, you don't need to bring the behavior to a public place, Do you? Here I believe the homosexuals want the legislation. Somehow creating within the area of sexuality a "civil right".
I agree with you about the religious right. Religion is a private matter, and I am as irratated over the door to door evangelicals as the next person. I don't care whether homosexuality is a sin, it is enough for me to realize my feelings run counter to public variations of sexuality. (Actually too much public heterosexuality is too much as well.) But I don't worry about offending someone when I say you can't join our club and stand for open homosexual behavior. It should not be an area for the courts or the legislature. But remember who is pushing the agenda, and who is simply resistant to it.
20 posted on
06/23/2005 10:17:35 AM PDT by
KC_for_Freedom
(Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
To: KC_for_Freedom
Homosexual soilder? OK but keep quiet about your bedroom pals and bedroom behavoior. What is being legislated? They still should be able to serve openly, not every gay is flamboyant, but if one can say he is writing home to his girlfriend/boyfriend of the opposite sex, so should the one, who has a bf/gf of the same sex. I am not advocating special rights only equal, whatever codes/rules apply to heterosexual soldiers, applies to gays. Homosexual marriage? Well, form a legal contract with whomever you choose. Again, you don't need to bring the behavior to a public place, Do you? Here I believe the homosexuals want the legislation. Somehow creating within the area of sexuality a "civil right". I don't like PDA's (public displays of affection) that much, from straight or gay. But not every gay, is so flamboyant, we as heterosexuals are more apt to notice, because a man/woman holding hands, is so common we would be hard pressed to look at it twice. As I said above, part of the issue is, if you don't associate with many homosexuals, you are prone to only think of gay sex, being what defines them, I have gay friends in longterm relationships, and they don't fit the typical perception of an effeminate, flamboyant gay, just normal individuals, who never talk about their sex life, and are actually rather conservative, but cannot enter a contract with each other, and are denied over 1,000 rights. It doesn't have to be equal in the eyes of a citizen, but the state, as I also said above, no special rights, just equal. I look at it as a contract, and two gay men or lesbians surely can buy cars from each other, but are forbidden from a marriage contract. I agree with you about the religious right. Religion is a private matter, and I am as irratated over the door to door evangelicals as the next person. I don't care whether homosexuality is a sin, it is enough for me to realize my feelings run counter to public variations of sexuality. (Actually too much public heterosexuality is too much as well.) But I don't worry about offending someone when I say you can't join our club and stand for open homosexual behavior. It should not be an area for the courts or the legislature. But remember who is pushing the agenda, and who is simply resistant to it The courts are prone to get involved in civil rights issues, people don't like to hear the comparison to interracial marriage, but in a few respects it is exactly identical, in 1964 80% opposed it, most citing moral reasons, and it took loving v virginia to allow legal interracial marriage in every state. It is a volitional contract, and it is a severe violation of rights. I would prefer the Unsupreme court be left out of it, because they are growing ever more tyrannical, but as a pragmatist, I doubt they will be able to.
To: KC_for_Freedom
[Religion is a private matter, and I am as irratated over the door to door evangelicals as the next person.]
The door to door evangelicals have never irritated me. Though I've not held any religious beliefs for many years, their proselytizing is simply their way of expressing their views and doesn't harm anybody.
In contrast, the fanatical beliefs of the command economy zealots is truly an imposition on my way of life and directly effects my wallet.
202 posted on
06/24/2005 8:55:45 AM PDT by
spinestein
(See Dick talk. See Dick rant. See Dick compare U.S. soldiers to Nazis. Don't be a Dick.)
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