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McCain Would Trounce Hillary in ’08 Match-up (New Zogby Poll)
Zogby ^ | 6/23/05

Posted on 06/23/2005 9:00:06 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: dubyaismypresident

I have, and it is better than whatever Der Furer Hillary would bring us.


141 posted on 06/23/2005 11:03:09 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: areafiftyone

I don't know. Other than looking like the classical "Stepford Wife," I know nothing about Mrs. McCain.


142 posted on 06/23/2005 11:03:56 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: MeanWestTexan
I have, and it is better than whatever Der Furer Hillary would bring us.

Trusting Ted Kennedy over Hillary on immigration? I wouldn't. Ted has a track record......

143 posted on 06/23/2005 11:03:58 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (And our prisoners at Gitmo eat better than I do)
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To: Betaille

If you say so, but lets put it this way McCain is much more likely to get the "conservative democrat" vote then he is to get my vote.


144 posted on 06/23/2005 11:04:51 AM PDT by TBall
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To: TBall

"McCain is much more likely to get the "conservative democrat" vote then he is to get my vote."

My point is that he's less likely to get conservative Democrat votes than Dubya. Conservative Republicans get more Democratic votes than Liberal Republicans because they give conservative Democrats a reason to overlook party loyalty. Compare Reagan's performance among Democrats to Ford or Bush 1's.


145 posted on 06/23/2005 11:13:28 AM PDT by Betaille ("Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: areafiftyone
McQueeg HAS to be stopped in the primary.

Every freeper should start thinking now about running for convention delegate. Let's flood every ticket in the country with freeper names on the GOP delegate lists.

What the hell, it's worth a try. Gather the required signatures and get on the ballot!

The GOP bigwigs in each state try to influence the selection of every delegate, and conservatives too often sit back and let them get away with it. That's how the GOP ends up with so many RINO's.

With the immigration issue, the price of gasoline, the war dragging on, and the detachment of the administration from the rank and file, Hillary, or most any other Dim, stands a good chance of winning the presidency. She would beat McCain in a heartbeat.

Conservatives have got to stack the convention!

Leni

146 posted on 06/23/2005 11:14:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers: Check out the Florida Forum. Click the Florida Flag on Your Profile Page)
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To: Always Right
"The Republicans who are most active will do whatever it takes to get someone besides Rudy or McCain nominated."

You got THAT right! During the Republican primaries, watch for the constant reminders of how McCain sold out the Bush Administration with his "compromise" on the judges' confirmations. He will be ripped to shreds with his wife's history of drug abuse and addiction, his liberal wishy-washy positions and his sellouts of conservatives. He will be toast within weeks of declaring his candidacy.

147 posted on 06/23/2005 11:27:31 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: areafiftyone

Why are they only doing McCain - as if he's the only one on the face of the earth!?




Because that would be the media's dream election. They wanted McPain in 2000, remember? They'd never vote for him, because of that "R" on the ticket (even though it stands for RHINO), but they'd love to see him get the nomination. It'd be a win-win situation for 'em.


148 posted on 06/23/2005 10:41:03 PM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: hellinahandcart

Hold your nose and vote, friends.



Nope.



No way in Hell.


149 posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:21 PM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: doug from upland

I don't want McCain to win the nomination, but if he is nominated and whining people stay home because they didn't get their way, a woman will attain power who will change this nation forever. This attitude is disgusting. The three greatest threats to our nation are Islamic terror, the ChiComs, and Hillary Clinton. People better understand that and stop whining.




Call it "whining" or whatever you care to, but I refuse to choose any more between the lesser of two evils-because evil is still evil. And the country would be done for, IMO, if EITHER of these two got the position. That's my stand, and I'm NEVER going to change it. Sorry.


150 posted on 06/23/2005 10:48:01 PM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: Mr. K
The Clintoons are HOPING for a McCain-HilLIARy match-up

Or the MSM is hoping for a McNut - Clinton ticket.. Don't laugh, someone may be planning just that sort of dream team nightmare to spring on us.. GULP.. :)

151 posted on 06/23/2005 10:50:57 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: The Foolkiller
lesser of two evils-because evil is still evil.
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Make the turn after not seeing a sign that says NO RIGHT TURN ON RED is a violation of the vehicle code. Vehicular manslaughter and leaving the scene is a violation of the vehicle code. Both are violations. Some of us are able to see the difference.

Politics is the art of the possible. We are not always going to get what we want. Hillary is smiling and saying, "Way to go Foolkiller; make your stand!"

152 posted on 06/24/2005 7:01:12 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

You may as well talk to the wind. I refuse to be shamed for my principles. If the Rhinos are no better than the cRATS, there's no reason to vote for either.


153 posted on 06/24/2005 11:22:36 AM PDT by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: ktvaughn

You're right. McCain will pull Dems from Hillary.

Like me. I've always said that in 2000, if McCain had been the GOP nominee, the race would not have been close and Gore would have been trounced.

I (a Gore voter) would have voted for McCain over Gore.

I, who don't find Hillary particularly offensive, would vote for McCain over her. Why? Well, for one, I like McCain. I also find McCain far more honest. It's rare to find someone in politics who calls a spade a spade, which, I think, McCain has done. (With the exception of the flag thing in SC in 2000.)

I also think if we had another Clinton term, the Clinton-haters would make sure we spent the entire time embroiled in investigations and grand juries. We can debate the relative merit of that until the cows come home (and, before anyone flames me on this point, I thought WJC should have resigned or been removed), but it would be a huge distraction for the country and not get anything done.

I have a feeling that, as the race heated up, I'd find myself pinching myself from time to time saying, "I'm really gonna vote for this guy?" I disagree with McCain on many major issues. Yet, I still believe, when the curtain was securely pulled behind me, I'd vote for him. Because I would trust him to do what he thought was in the best interest of the country, and not what was popular.

And, yes, I am completely prepared for the posts saying that because I would vote for him, it's a good reason he should never be the nominee. :-)

PS: And if it's not McCain, I would vote for Hillary.

(And before anyone calls me a "sleeper" or a "troll" or something like that, please check my links and you'll find out I've been scrupulously clear on who I am and why I joined here: I'm a Democrat who greatly appreciated the concern Freepers had over the Shiavo case, and appreciates FR as a source of information and thought.)


154 posted on 06/24/2005 11:24:02 AM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: The Foolkiller

Stick to your principles. That is noble. But there are consequences. Hillary will thank you. She is counting on it.


155 posted on 06/24/2005 6:55:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: areafiftyone
HERE IS THE "HOLD YOUR BREATH UNTIL YOU TURN RED AND HELP HILLARY" SONG
156 posted on 06/24/2005 9:17:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: areafiftyone

Is that supposed to make a conservative feel good?


157 posted on 06/24/2005 9:18:50 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: rhombus

I'd vote for Nader before I'd vote for McCain. At least Nader would be GREAT entertainment. A RINO is sure to just piss you off and cause 4 years of acid reflux.


158 posted on 06/24/2005 9:21:48 PM PDT by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: doug from upland

Then Republicans better give us a better choice.


159 posted on 06/24/2005 9:23:03 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: TBall
Have you checked the American Conservative Union, Eagle Forum, Family Research Center, Christian Coalition, Concerned Women for America, Campaign for Working Families and Republican Liberty Caucus ratings for McCain post-2000? And the Planned Parenthood and NARAL ratings, on the left, for him post 2000? Look at them and tell me how he's going to attract a significant liberal vote when it gets down to gonad-cutting time.

John McCain is a horse's rear, he's been a thorn in Bush's side ... IMHO, more for personal reasons than political or philosophical reasons ... and he's a bit too willing to compromise for my tastes, and I'd really rather have someone else in 2008, but I challenge anybody to look at the numbers ... again, I'm talking post-2000, after his presidential run and the stuff with Bush ... and make anything but a knee-jerk "I simply can't stand the guy because the EEEEEVILL media love him" case that he's going to attract massive libera support. Because looking at the numbers, I don't see a 100 percenter, but I don't see a liberal either, unless the definition of liberal is now anything less than 100 percent.

BTW, if it's Hillary vs. McCain, I'm voting for McCain.

160 posted on 06/24/2005 9:24:34 PM PDT by GB
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