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Democrats Demand Retraction From Rove
Guardian.co.UK & AP ^ | 6/23/05 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 06/23/2005 8:53:47 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Democrats are demanding that White House adviser Karl Rove immediately retract and apologize for comments that liberals responded to the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes by wanting to ``prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.''

``The one thing New York has had since Sept. 11 is unity,'' said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. ``To inject politics into this and to defame a large number of people'' is outrageous, he said. ``It's not what New York and America is all about.''

Rove, Bush's chief political adviser, said in a speech Wednesday that ``liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.'' Conservatives, he said in the speech to the New York state Conservative Party just a few miles north of Ground Zero, ``saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war.''

Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for ``moderation and restraint'' after the terrorist attacks.

Schumer said Democrats were drafting a letter asking Rove to retract his remarks. Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., also called on President Bush to ``immediately repudiate Karl Rove's offensive and outrageous comments.''

Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting U.S. troops in greater danger. The Illinois Democrat has since apologized for the remarks.

``No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals,'' Rove said.


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To: steel_resolve
...atomic wedgie...

Honestly - I haven't heard that one in quite some time!

Kudos to you for reviving the memory!

CA....

281 posted on 06/23/2005 11:45:40 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: QQQQQ

Good. Save.

(You have 3 kids?)


282 posted on 06/24/2005 12:20:03 AM PDT by Kay
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To: b4its2late

obviously, they misunderstood Rove. Obviously, they don't even understand themselves


283 posted on 06/24/2005 12:36:00 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Why do the Libs favor tyrants and Clintons?)
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To: Moral Hazard
He said "liberals" not "Democrats".

A line worth remembering after Dems exhaust this ineffectual, self-righteous outrage. We can pin the tail on the donkey here if Rove isn't already on the job.

They don't have a leg to stand on. They're as hyper-sensitive about their image as Hollywwod starlette....and for good reason.

284 posted on 06/24/2005 12:38:10 AM PDT by eric_da_grate
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To: truthluva
"Sorry you were offended"

Make the first word "Glad" if the truth is intended.

285 posted on 06/24/2005 2:54:35 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: phillyfanatic

"blobbers ought to overwhelm..."

blobbers? You mean like Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy?? ;-)


286 posted on 06/24/2005 3:21:47 AM PDT by chief_bigfoot ("isn't THAT amazing?" - Ron Popiel)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Why are liberals so upset? Karl Rove described them accurately as they really are. You would think they would celebrate a Republican complimenting them on their socialist philosophy. Finally they can be themselves at last. But they're mad as hell. Why? Its one of those things that leaves one befuddled about liberals - after all they're the ones always in a high dudgeon about ethics, openness, accountability and transparency. You'd think they'd welcome it here.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
287 posted on 06/24/2005 4:10:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Note to Schumer: I'm a Dem. Rove was right.
288 posted on 06/24/2005 4:14:29 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: glock rocks; CyberAnt
Therapy? Therapy is killing terrorists!


Killing terrorists is freeing the world from tyranny and oppression, that is great therapy! Indictments? What for? see the first two sentences...


The demorats have became the party of useful idiots for the terrorists. If, for one second, the dem's think that they are going to get a seat in a world governance by terrorists, they better think again. Once terrorists rule, they'll kill the problem that threatens their regime.


Hey lib's F.O.A.D.
289 posted on 06/24/2005 4:15:58 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Senator Turbin Durbin is America's Al Quaida sleeper cell leader...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for ``moderation and restraint'' after the terrorist attacks.

Wrong, AP! Here is what rove said:

Submitting a petition is precisely what Moveon.org did. It was a petition imploring the powers that be” to “use moderation and restraint in responding to the… terrorist attacks against the United States.”

290 posted on 06/24/2005 4:26:48 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (If their Chief of police is okay with it, I am guessing that we should probably be okay with it.)
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To: SGCOS
The second quote is not accurate. Rove did not say "democrats", he said "moveon.org."
291 posted on 06/24/2005 4:28:29 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (If their Chief of police is okay with it, I am guessing that we should probably be okay with it.)
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To: Phsstpok
However, let's assume that this is an accurate portrayal of what he said.

You were correct. The AP quote is out of context (at the very least.)

292 posted on 06/24/2005 4:30:07 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (If their Chief of police is okay with it, I am guessing that we should probably be okay with it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Someone tell Sean Hannity to include Kerry's "more sensitive war" remark in his diatribe.


293 posted on 06/24/2005 5:28:01 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: QQQQQ

excellent!


294 posted on 06/24/2005 5:30:34 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: Zeppelin
The greatest possible mistake now would be to replace complacency with battle -rage.

Throughout history wars only really end when when an enemy is willing to accept peace on any terms that their opponent will offer. Conflicts "settled" otherwise are merely time outs until the next round.

The quickest path to a settled reslut is fighting to win and battle rage is an excellent tool to channel the energy necessary to win.

Inotherwords, if we had not listened to idiots like this article's author the war with terrorism and fanatics would be over. As it is we are merely approaching the end of round one. There will be other terror attacks and wars in an ever climbing escalating of blood and horror until the preachers of moderation are completely discredited.

295 posted on 06/24/2005 5:46:33 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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To: thomas16

the BEST line I've ever read about LIBERALS was from Ann COulter: 'LIBERALS love America like O.J. loved Nicole.'


296 posted on 06/24/2005 5:51:11 AM PDT by Jazzman1
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To: truthluva

Sorry IF you were offended


297 posted on 06/24/2005 5:58:16 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: An Old Marine


Throughout history wars only really end when when an enemy is willing to accept peace on any terms that their opponent will offer. Conflicts "settled" otherwise are merely time outs until the next round.

The quickest path to a settled reslut is fighting to win and battle rage is an excellent tool to channel the energy necessary to win.

Inotherwords, if we had not listened to idiots like this article's author the war with terrorism and fanatics would be over. As it is we are merely approaching the end of round one. There will be other terror attacks and wars in an ever climbing escalating of blood and horror until the preachers of moderation are completely discredited.

I couldn't agree with you more.

Let's take 1930s European appeasement for example. Where did that get us? An all-out, balls-to-the-wall war. Sure, it looked good in the short run, but all it did was give Hitler a little more confidence every time he had even a minor victory.

Now lets look at 1945. Japan got hit pretty hard when we unleashed the awesome power we had. Two cities destroyed in two different days, without having to land a single troop. THAT's power. And where did it get us? Well, last time I checked, Japan is one of our greatest allies.

Yes, the War on Terror will be like a pendulum. I just hope that we wake up soon and go all-out and win their complete surrender through total fear.

"The quickest path to a settled reslut" ~~ what the hell is a "settled reSLUT?" ~~ just joking!

I see the War on Terror, and appeasement, and all that very similar to a parent disciplining their child. If you give in to the child's demands or make concessions, they're gonna become a spoiled brat, not learn any lessons, and challenge your authority again, and often. If you whip them when they get out of line, then explain to them what they did wrong and how they should handle themselves in the future, then they will be a much more behaved kid. It's just an analogy, but for the most part, it works.


298 posted on 06/24/2005 6:02:06 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: Moral Hazard

Great point! It's like they are admitting the 'dim' party is nothing but liberals. The dust from 9/11 hadn't even setteled before all the liberal dimwit hangwringing about what WE had done to make them hate us. Kind of funny no finger pointing at the Clintoon administration who had barely removed their sorry butts from the WH only months before after eight years of 'love' towards our enemies.


299 posted on 06/24/2005 6:11:33 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: AliVeritas
Exactly. My wife calls this a left-handed apology.

"I can see that you're upset by what I did. I am sorry for that."
"If what I did upsets you then I am sorry."
"If there's anything I did that might have upset you then I am sorry."

Does anyone remember a very funny audio collection of Clinton apologies - He apologized in several languages (including "jive" - where he simply says, "My bad.") It was hilarious.

300 posted on 06/24/2005 6:16:57 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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