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High Court: Govts Can Take Property for Econ Development
Bloomberg News
Posted on 06/23/2005 7:30:08 AM PDT by Helmholtz
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To: Outland
"The spirit of the times may alter, will alter. Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless. A single zealot may commence persecutor, and better men be his victims. It can never be too often repeated that the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is while our rulers are honest and ourselves united. From the conclusion of [their] war [for independence, a nation begins] going down hill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of [that] war will remain on [them] long, will be made heavier and heavier, till [their] rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion."
--Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVII, 1782.
501
posted on
06/23/2005 10:21:34 AM PDT
by
AntiGuv
(™)
To: highball
They made this point over at DU and they got one on us....
:(
502
posted on
06/23/2005 10:23:30 AM PDT
by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: prairiebreeze
"Public use and utilities were the precedent before. Now, they can tear down your house to put up a strip mall."
Let me tell you about a town named Bellwood, a near-west suburb of Chicago where the Orwellian mayor, "Big-Brother" Frank Pasquale, has decided to run some of the industry out of town (several functioning businesses employing numerous people) in lieu of a shopping mall (which isn't needed) and some cheaply built retirement "slums". He's going mad with setting up one TIF district after another.
The residents there should see what is happening in nearby DesPlaines and Downers Grove where their TIF projects are failing and costing big money. No problem... raise the property taxes to compensate.
Pasquale has yet to achieve more than 30% occupancy in his last strip mall project a few years ago.
503
posted on
06/23/2005 10:24:09 AM PDT
by
Outland
(Some people are damned lucky that I don't have Bill Gates' checkbook.)
To: CGVet58
Re holdonnow - please ask him about the following too.
He needs to advise how come the AMA is making laws without using the legal process for lawmaking that will put them in the position of evaluating whether each of us is "qualified" to continue living or to have care withdrawn?
Who made the AMA the elite of the country with the ability to take away the constitutional rights of American citizens and deny them medical care based on their judgements?
504
posted on
06/23/2005 10:24:32 AM PDT
by
ClancyJ
(Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
To: eyespysomething
>>>
Did I say that out loud? LOL.<<< Great minds and all that.....see my post #500. Cheers!
505
posted on
06/23/2005 10:24:45 AM PDT
by
HardStarboard
(With Lebanon simmering, Iran on medium-high, whose next? I vote Syria....lets turn up the heat!)
To: Dead Corpse
I don't think you are the only one.
You know, in the 1700's they didn't have the internet. They had to meet in person.
506
posted on
06/23/2005 10:24:45 AM PDT
by
eyespysomething
( A penny saved is a government oversight)
To: AntiGuv
Hopefully there will be some brave Americans that use the 2nd Amendment to enforce their Constitutional rights to private property ownership against government entities that try to make hay on this disaster of a Supreme Court decision.
"2nd Amendment? What is this 2nd amendment you speak of? We've already stricken that from the books, all firearms are interstate commerce." says the Black 5.
507
posted on
06/23/2005 10:25:07 AM PDT
by
boofus
To: RightWhale
The right to life is also in doubt with the TS case.That case had little if anything to do with the right to life. It had everything to do with deciding who speaks for a person when that person is unable to speak for herself.
508
posted on
06/23/2005 10:25:26 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
To: montag813
Buying homes in established residential areas carry zero risk. This decision sucks, but please don't scare people into thinking the government is about to seize everyone's homes.Not true. The "land use commmittee" in my city just designated my low density, well established residential area as "mixed use". That means a property can be purchased, bulldozed and replaced with a commercial business. The "committee" and city council are owned by the local property developers. My next door neighbor purchased the house over his back fence, bulldozed it and put up a 4 story commercial building to house 4 businesses. My view of the mountains is now mostly obliterated. The occupants of the building have an unobstructed view of my whole backyard. The dark skies I have enjoyed for a few years to observe meteor showers will be overcome by the parking lot lighting for 24 parking spaces in this new commercial building. My property value has been diminished for the enrichment of my neighbor and the city tax coffers.
This ruling would permit my idiot neighbor to petition the city council to seize my home and hand it over to my idiot neighbor for expansion of his business interests. The precedent has been made in my city and the Supreme Court ruling removes all the restraints. Piss off a real estate developer who owns the city council and your home is getting the bulldozer.
509
posted on
06/23/2005 10:25:54 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: blackie
Time to impeach and remove the euro-judges sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court.
510
posted on
06/23/2005 10:26:27 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: Helmholtz
The abolition of private property, one of the communist goals.......
Welcome to the USSA
511
posted on
06/23/2005 10:26:32 AM PDT
by
Stellar Dendrite
(Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
To: Helmholtz
Are religious properties exempt or can the city of Chicago seize Holy Name Cathedral and turn it into a profitable bath house?
To: Helmholtz
The AP has the story on Yahoo, with Scalia's PICTURE!!!!!!
Bastards.
To: american spirit
As with all gov't. actions anymore it's very devious way to create a conflict that can facilitate gaining jurisdiction.....all cloaked in legalese and procedure we've never been privy to learning. True, very true.
But all contracts are legally refutable if they lack;
KNOWLEDGE of a contract
CONSENT to the contract
and
FULL DISCLOSURE on the contract of all the terms.
Unfortunately, you have to KNOW there IS a contract before you can refute it.
(Not to mention that USPS general delivery is NOT *legal* notification)
514
posted on
06/23/2005 10:27:53 AM PDT
by
MamaTexan
(I am NOT a *legal entity*...nor am I a ~person~ as created by law!!)
To: newgeezer
It's for the good of the state comrade.
515
posted on
06/23/2005 10:28:45 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
To: Motherbear
Yep, my lib dem sister was on the same page as I on this issue. We never ever agree on politics.
I don't see them negotiating any longer. Just go straight to the courts and condemn your property. They have attorneys on retainer, they just get to earn their salaries now.
To: BikerNYC
"I want to see the Preseident come out fast and hard against this decision, and stand up for property owners rights on this issue. On this he must take a stand."
Hahaha....fat chance. When good men do nothing, evil triumphs.
517
posted on
06/23/2005 10:28:56 AM PDT
by
Stellar Dendrite
(Saddam: $25k to suicide bombers = BAD --- Bush: 50 mil to terrorist scum = "GOOD")
To: hellinahandcart
I kinda wonder sometimes why you're here.
Justshutupandtakeit appears to have the most apt screen name on FreeRepublic.
518
posted on
06/23/2005 10:29:10 AM PDT
by
SittinYonder
(Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
To: BJClinton
Yep. When even presidential elections only get a 50% turnout we are in trouble. And you are entirely correct about local ones. No one seems to care until it is too late.
Wonder what percentage of Freepers vote? And what percentage vote EVERY TIME? Even though my vote is meaningless in the RATruled City of Chicago I go to the polls every time and make sure that at least one vote will not be for the RAT machine.
To: AntiGuv
Hey AntiGuv, part of the first Jefferson quote really caught my eye...
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive."
We should take that as his will and as one of this country's Founding Fathers, we should see it as an obligation to fulfill his will.
Hmmm....
520
posted on
06/23/2005 10:30:41 AM PDT
by
Outland
(Some people are damned lucky that I don't have Bill Gates' checkbook.)
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